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7th December 05, 02:51 PM
#51
my piont was that it was sad that a young man was bitter, Hate , anger vengance, just about sums up whats wrong with the world, Ive been to celtic park and sen the hate-yes hate not sporting rivalry- pure hate between the 2 sets of fans, hate for fellow Scots! its been called "Scotlands shame"
Never ever forget the fallen I agree, but bitterness and hate towards their descendants, lets not be so shallow please.
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7th December 05, 04:13 PM
#52
Hatred is destructive and a terrible flaw of mankind.
Hatred for no good reason...is just plain stupid...dangerous and above all...very sad.
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7th December 05, 05:20 PM
#53
I have a friend whose surname is "Campbell". I once asked him if he ever runs across the anti-Campbell thing. He said that it happens not everyday, but perhaps once per year. Whether John was being cute does not change the fact that he is encourage a type of bigotry. Would we think it was cute if he refused to shake hands, as part of some inside joke, with a relative who happens to be member of a visible minority?
It is very stupid to think that one is engaged in a feud with the Campbells. The Glencoe massacre happened in 1692. In 1692, there were likely alot of people with the surname Campbell. However of all the Campbells alive in 1692, few actually killed a MacDonald. It is not like all the Campbells went into the Glencoe. The Campbells at Glencoe were the kings soldiers and were not acting on behalf of their clan or their chieftian. Most people with the surname Campbell are not descendants of the Campbells who were at Glencoe. How can guilt be attributed to anyone with the surname Campbell?
Ancestors of mine at who were adults in 1692 would be great great great great great great grandparents (or greater), with whom I share 1/128 DNA (or less) -- that's not even one full chromozone. Not enough common blood to support a blood feud.
Lastly, there are likely a lot of people with surnames other than Campbell who had a Campbell ancestor at Glencoe. If one is going to be silly enough to have this hatred, it should be targetted at the right people.
Last edited by jkdesq; 7th December 05 at 05:29 PM.
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5th January 09, 07:30 PM
#54
 Originally Posted by Wompet
Putting aside the historical context, the boy may simply have meant "No one in my family would be caught dead in a photo op with you." Not "with any one of you Campbells," but Gordon Campbell in particular. Makes a prejudicial remark into a statement of family politics.
Just throwing that out to be poked at or stepped in.
I, for one ( along with a lot of other BCers) wouldn't shake the hand of this particular Gordo Campbell. As Wompet suspects, I think it likely that the lad just picked a more polite way of puttting his refusal, to be used by gordo.
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5th January 09, 08:10 PM
#55
 Originally Posted by Cawdorian
You got that right! ;-)
Jim takes that old saying "hold your friends close and your enemies closer!" to the extreme. bravo
We have to remember the lad is 13 and flexing his muscles. We all tease the Campbells and he took it pretty far.
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5th January 09, 08:13 PM
#56
Off-topic on the off-topic, but do you realize you're resurrecting a 3 year-old thread?
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5th January 09, 09:34 PM
#57
I've heard a little needling while carrying the Clan Campbell banner, but nothing mean spirited.
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5th January 09, 10:39 PM
#58
Indeed, bear in mind that this thread is 3+ years old.
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5th January 09, 10:49 PM
#59
And Glencoe is 300+ years ago...
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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5th January 09, 10:57 PM
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