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8th January 09, 04:41 AM
#51
Chavs are aspirational youth. Unfortunately they aspire to a perceived celeb life style without bothering with things like eduction, work, relationships etc
If you have the stomach for it check out the following on You Tube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JoQnOB...eature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z1V-rp...eature=related
The 'Eathen in his idleness bows down to wood and stone,
'E don't obey no orders unless they is his own,
He keeps his side arms awful,
And he leaves them all about,
Until up comes the Regiment and kicks the 'Eathen out.
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8th January 09, 04:58 AM
#52
With as much sarcasm as I can muster. Its great to see how some of Britain's "finest" behave and look. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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8th January 09, 07:25 PM
#53
 Originally Posted by davedove
Some people can't be bothered to get dressed up and attend formal events, or just don't have the occasion to do so. I say that's fine, but I also think they're missing out on an experience.
I was raised in rural southern Illinois. My relatives were for the most part farm folk. My dad over the years raised horses, cattle, and even pigs, yet he owned a suit for nicer events. Granted, I don't think he ever wore a tuxedo, but he would have if the occasion warranted.
Dressing appropriately is not about being superior, it's about respecting the host of the event.
I'm with Dave here, while I own bits and pieces of formal kit, I have few occasions to use them. I find though, that I am often the sole tie wearer at a family holiday gathering, sometimes joined by young Scooby, who still enjoys the novelty of "dressing up."

I enjoy wearing a tie, and given the odd appropriate occasion, would enjoy wearing "real" black tie too.
Bob
If you can't be good, be entertaining!!!
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8th January 09, 08:43 PM
#54
So I'm not sure why this is being flogged so much. Black tie means black bow tie. White tie means white bow tie, if your scottish white lace jabot can be used (see Sir Sean Connery being gonged). When you receive an invitation dress appropriately!! If it says black tie then that is what is expected, formal wear is usually suite or higher. If the invite is to a picnic of horse riding then you aren't going to wear black tie. But please dress in clean non holed clothing, don't wear your pj's and slippers (this is a disturbing trend)
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8th January 09, 10:49 PM
#55
Sasha Baron Cohen"s Ali G is the Chav Supreme. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fOIM1_xOSro
A kilted Celt on the border.
Kentoc'h mervel eget bezań saotret
Omne bellum sumi facile, ceterum ęgerrume desinere.
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9th January 09, 08:21 AM
#56
This thread really has degenerated a great deal.
We're all Ladies and Gentlemen on this forum, regardless of our personal dress preferences.
To see this go so far downhill into snickering, finger pointing and even to the point of discussing what politicians wear and how it shows their political standpoint is really scraping the barrel.
If someone chooses not to wear a bow tie, it is their choice. If the host of the black tie event they are going to takes offence then it is up to them to say something to the person or simply not invite them back.
These dress rules, which I very much support, were as a point of fact brought about in a very different time and society. They simply don't apply with the same dire need now as they used to.
How about we all calm down a little and take a step back? I mean, how much flack do many of our members take for wanting to wear a Kilt to a formal event?! (God forbid!)
Are we really so base and judgmental as those who judge and criticize us?
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9th January 09, 08:29 AM
#57
 Originally Posted by Smayniac
. . . sometimes joined by young Scooby, who still enjoys the novelty of "dressing up."
. . .
Personally, I like ole Scooby. He can play at my house any time.
I have a hat exactly like his, and he has style. Ergo, I think I have style.
Lighten up. folks.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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9th January 09, 09:19 AM
#58
 Originally Posted by Arlen
This thread really has degenerated a great deal.
We're all Ladies and Gentlemen on this forum, regardless of our personal dress preferences.
To see this go so far downhill into snickering, finger pointing and even to the point of discussing what politicians wear and how it shows their political standpoint is really scraping the barrel.
If someone chooses not to wear a bow tie, it is their choice. If the host of the black tie event they are going to takes offence then it is up to them to say something to the person or simply not invite them back.
These dress rules, which I very much support, were as a point of fact brought about in a very different time and society. They simply don't apply with the same dire need now as they used to.
How about we all calm down a little and take a step back? I mean, how much flack do many of our members take for wanting to wear a Kilt to a formal event?! (God forbid!)
Are we really so base and judgmental as those who judge and criticize us?
Arlen
The Moderating Staff completely agree therefore
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