Waistcoat and belt

[piperdbh]

Thanks for the new opportunity for controversy!
I wonder if some sort of strap-and-button arrangement could be installed to the bottom of the waistcoat which would fasten to a corresponding holder attached to the kilt? For instance, buttons could be sewn to the inside of the top of the kilt, near the first and last pleats so as to not pull on the aprons, and straps with buttonholes could be sewn to the inside bottom of the waistcoat/vest, and the wearer could then attach the two, thereby holding the waistcoat down and the kilt up at the same time. These appliances would not be seen, and if done right, I believe it might solve a lot of people's problems. This system could also be used for pants/trousers/britches, as well, attaching to the buttons that some pants already have for suspenders/braces.
If anybody patents this system, I want half the royalties.

[svc40bt]

Thanks for the new opportunity for controversy!
I wonder if some sort of strap-and-button arrangement could be installed to the bottom of the waistcoat which would fasten to a corresponding holder attached to the kilt? For instance, buttons could be sewn to the inside of the top of the kilt, near the first and last pleats so as to not pull on the aprons, and straps with buttonholes could be sewn to the inside bottom of the waistcoat/vest, and the wearer could then attach the two, thereby holding the waistcoat down and the kilt up at the same time. These appliances would not be seen, and if done right, I believe it might solve a lot of people's problems. This system could also be used for pants/trousers/britches, as well, attaching to the buttons that some pants already have for suspenders/braces.
If anybody patents this system, I want half the royalties.

Make it a 'load bearing vest'.

Now that I think of it, someone mentioned that the waistcoats for white tie had some similar system to ensure the waistband of the trousers was not exposed.

[Zardoz]

Since 'traditionally' the waistcoat would cover the same area of the kilt that a belt would, just wear a belt under it. Something smaller, plain and unobtrusive, not a big ol' kilt belt. A cloth military style trouser web belt comes to mind.

[Wompet]

Make it a 'load bearing vest'.

Now that I think of it, someone mentioned that the waistcoats for white tie had some similar system to ensure the waistband of the trousers was not exposed.

If I remember right, historical boys' kilts have been mentioned having similar systems - waistcoats buttoned to kilts. There were pictures in at least one thread on the subject. And it has been mentioned that some older MoD kilts had buttons for braces. I don't remember if there were pictures or not.

I fall in the waistcoat/no belt camp - if it were me, I would follow Macmillan of Rathdown's directions for adding buttons to the kilt.

[Southern Breeze]

If I remember right, historical boys' kilts have been mentioned having similar systems - waistcoats buttoned to kilts. There were pictures in at least one thread on the subject. And it has been mentioned that some older MoD kilts had buttons for braces. I don't remember if there were pictures or not.

I fall in the waistcoat/no belt camp - if it were me, I would follow Macmillan of Rathdown's directions for adding buttons to the kilt.

I have several MoD kilts that had buttons for braces. I've removed them since they weren't needed. Since a pic is worth a thousand words, here's two. I placed pennies in the locations of the buttons. There were four in the back and two on the front.

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