Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
I just got my saffron. It feels like it's about the same weight as the standards- maybe a little heavier. The pleats are about half as deep as the ones on my wool Nightstalker, and the material is a lot lighter. So I would guess my Nightstalker is a good 13 oz at least, if not a 16. I don't know exactly, because it was sent to me by mistake. I ordered a Nightstalker standard, and was sent the heavy, so it never occured to me to ask. Also, the lining is different. The lining in all my others feels like satin, while the lining in this one feels like horse hair or something a little more coarse and thick. The straps are not as heavy leather on this one as on my Nighstalker. An just as a point of reference, my Nightstalker was ordered almost 2 years ago. So there you have it- the solid color is a lot lighter than the tartan, and the pleats are much more shallow. Overall, as always, a great kilt for the money- no complaints. The shadow tartan effect is very cool. I like it a lot. It will be a much more comfortable summer kilt than my Nightstalker for sure. I'm wearing it tonight in the relative cold (low 20's f) to see how warm it keeps me. I'll post on that tomorrow, as well post pics. I know that if there are no pics, it doesn't exist.

Nighthawk, I am very confused now. Did you order a standard (acrylic) saffron or a wool heavyweight saffron?

If those wool shadow tartans are anywhere as light as the standards, then something is very, very, very, very, very wrong here.

I am also confused by your description of the pleats being shallower.

I wanted to stay out of this thread, but it's just not adding up.