Buckled Brogues

[Panache]

Here is a photo of Hamish and Robertson (Photo posted by Pour1Malt)

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I think that these shoes sported by Hamish are really smart

Cheers

Jamie

[Alan H]

Ah, there's a difference between thinking the SHOES aren't terribly masculine looking, and not to my taste...


...and thinking that other men wearing them aren't very masculine.

I don't happen to like that style of buckle brouges. I'd probably enjoy the company of the lads in that picture, who are wearing them, quite a lot. Besides, they probably think that some of the things that I wear look bizarre, too. That's OK with me!

[Tim Little]

I have to say, though, that Hamish's Glenfinnans are starting to grow on me....

[svc40bt]

Here is a photo of Hamish and Robertson (Photo posted by Pour1Malt)




I think that these shoes sported by Hamish are really smart

Cheers

Jamie

From the other thread, they were called Glen Finnans(?Sp). That is also the style I believe DFWII was referring to when he was talking about 18th century buckled shoes. I like them too, although the high cut of them would not be likely to fit me.

[HIJACK]What sort of doublet is it that Hamish is wearing?[/HIJACK]

[SFCRick]

Don't ask Don't tell, just because someone is in the military, it does not make them masculine. I have met many who are not, even young officers.

[macwilkin]

Don't ask Don't tell, just because someone is in the military, it does not make them masculine. I have met many who are not, even young officers.

The reference in question was to the dress, not the officers.

Regards,

Todd

[The Barry]

I believe that the real discrepancy is in how we are defining the term "traditional" to ourselves. Some are going to look towards the military, some (myself included) are going to look away from the military due to certain cultural/political/ancestral tendencies.

I would like to know exactly where and when the buckle brogue came into fashion. Does anybody know?

[JSFMACLJR]

I believe that the real discrepancy is in how we are defining the term "traditional" to ourselves. Some are going to look towards the military, some (myself included) are going to look away from the military due to certain cultural/political/ancestral tendencies.

I would like to know exactly where and when the buckle brogue came into fashion. Does anybody know?

Oh, if not Jacobean, then at least from the Caroline or Restoration era, so for about 400 years.

But I guess it depends what style of buckled brogues you are asking about!

Sandford MacLean

[macwilkin]

I believe that the real discrepancy is in how we are defining the term "traditional" to ourselves. Some are going to look towards the military, some (myself included) are going to look away from the military due to certain cultural/political/ancestral tendencies.

It should be noted of course that traditional Highland attire owes a great deal to the Highland Regiments of the British & Commonwealth forces. Much of what we know as traditional kit is based on and/or has its roots in the regiments.

In fact, one can make a strong case that the regiments "saved" Highland attire by keeping it alive during the Proscription era after the '45, not to mention the fact that regimental tartans were the forerunner of clan tartans.

Regards,

Todd

[Phil]

I would like to know exactly where and when the buckle brogue came into fashion. Does anybody know?

The buckle brogue was the accepted fashion to be worn with Highland Dress when I was a child in the 1950's and probably for many years before that. Fashions for men did not change to any extent since Victorian times really until the 1960's when youth culture took over and cheap, almost disposable, clothing became widely available. I am talking about Britain, of course, but this is where Highland Dress actually belonged.
Turning to the question of masculinity, I do hope that earlier posts on this particular aspect are not confusing this with other aspects of human relationships. To hide behind "thigh-slapping" macho attitudes when deriding others' dress preferences does give the impression that those who choose to wear such a traditional form of footwear are in some way "beyond the pale".
The jacket, by the way, is a Military or Montrose doublet. a short, double-breasted jacket worn with a lace jabot and cuffs.