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5th February 09, 12:23 PM
#21
I believe the Doublet Hamish is wearing is whats known as a GT Doublet, that is it is something unique to Geoffrey Tailor.
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5th February 09, 12:29 PM
#22
Originally Posted by Phil
To hide behind "thigh-slapping" macho attitudes when deriding others' dress preferences does give the impression that those who choose to wear such a traditional form of footwear are in some way "beyond the pale".
Absolutely! I would in no way wish to deride anyone who chooses to wear buckle brogues. Absolutely for certain, it is the height of foolishnss and immaturity to deride ANYONE on the basis of what they wear, especially when such an article of clothing has a long and well-established tradition behind it.
I just don' t happen to like them, myself. But that in no way means that I think poorly of others who wear them.
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5th February 09, 01:07 PM
#23
Ahh, the fear of being thought nancy, effete. Please stop (in general)! Carry yourself the way you deign to. Leave others to carry themselves and clothe themselves however they see fit.
Having said that - feel lucky that kilted men often have more options of which shoes to wear - way more than men who wear p-nts. I wouldn't want to wear all of them, I prefer some over the others. I like Hamish's buckled brogues; McMurdo's version, with the buckle, imho, to me looks better than those in the first post. The shoes go well with the rest of their outfits and the gentlemen carry themselves very well. I have a pair that has a smaller buckle on the sides.
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6th February 09, 06:33 AM
#24
Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
Real men wear patent leather and buckles, and are proud of it!
Just a thought and FYI only...in recent times (the last fifty years?)...patent=plastic.
The best part of the leather (sometimes it's not even leather)--the corium--is stripped away or split off to use for "better shoes" and what is left is laminated to a sheet of vinyl or something similar.
I'm not going to presume to say what "real men" do but "cheap manufacturers" make patent from what would be considered, in any other context, "offal."
DWFII--Traditionalist and Auld Crabbit
In the Highlands of Central Oregon
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6th February 09, 07:57 AM
#25
Originally Posted by DWFII
Just a thought and FYI only...in recent times (the last fifty years?)...patent=plastic.
The best part of the leather (sometimes it's not even leather)--the corium--is stripped away or split off to use for "better shoes" and what is left is laminated to a sheet of vinyl or something similar.
I'm not going to presume to say what "real men" do but "cheap manufacturers" make patent from what would be considered, in any other context, "offal."
I would agree with you there but there doesn't seem to be any alternative available and I do prefer natural leather to patent.
Apologies for mis-calling Hamish's jacket, I didn't notice it was single-breasted. I have a similar one in blue velvet but with tashes.
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6th February 09, 06:22 PM
#26
Originally Posted by McMurdo
I believe the Doublet Hamish is wearing is whats known as a GT Doublet, that is it is something unique to Geoffrey Tailor.
Spot on, Glen! Yes, I am wearing the GT Doublet in that photo, and it is a Geoffrey (Tailor) design. For many years I wore a traditional double-breasted Montrose doublet, under which one could get away with wearing a white T-shirt - the jabot being worn loose and unattached, and the cuffs being tacked into the doublet's sleeves. That was ideal for my years of display Highland and Scottish Country dancing when one would get extremely hot! However dressed like that, one could never remove the doublet, as one might a Crail or Balmoral, or even a Prince Charlie, jacket.
The single-breasted GT Doublet can be worn in two ways: fully buttoned with the dress belt worn on the doublet, or partially buttoned (say, two or three buttons down from the neck) with the remainder undone and the dress belt worn on the kilt. The latter is cooler and more comfortable, but a white shirt has to be worn instead of the T-shirt since it will be visible.
I have to admit I prefer the look of the Montrose doublet but I find it a little constrictive since it is tailored closer to the body.
And now my apologies for hijacking this thread, but I am just elaborating on, and replying to a question that arose.
Take care,
Ham.
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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6th February 09, 08:27 PM
#27
Back in the spirit of the thread, Hamish I personally think your shoes and the GT Doublet are grand together and both have worked their way into my wish list.
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6th February 09, 09:04 PM
#28
The "GT" doublet looks like what used to be called the "Kenmore" doublet... I believe that Kenmore doublets are favoured by HRH The Duke of Rothsey and the Duke of Argyll, amongst others.
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9th February 09, 06:57 PM
#29
Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
The "GT" doublet looks like what used to be called the "Kenmore" doublet... I believe that Kenmore doublets are favoured by HRH The Duke of Rothsey and the Duke of Argyll, amongst others.
Actually, the 'Kenmore Doublet' has 'tashes' or decorative flaps at the front and rear, like the 'Sherriffmuir Jacket', which make the garment look longer. The GT Doublet is only waist length, as is The Montrose.
Take care,
Ham.
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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9th February 09, 07:26 PM
#30
Originally Posted by Hamish
Actually, the 'Kenmore Doublet' has 'tashes' or decorative flaps at the front and rear, like the 'Sherriffmuir Jacket', which make the garment look longer. The GT Doublet is only waist length, as is The Montrose.
Take care,
Ham.
I have to say I prefer the look without the 'tashes'. I looked at the GT website, but could not find said doublet.
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