A new type of lowlife...kilt related

**ccga3359** · 6th February 09, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Canuck

He lives in Cambridge...might be a good place for a kilt night.....

Funny you say that. I was just last week trying to come up with an excuse to go to Cambridge kilted in my genuine black leather RKilt (with the optional built in kilt-check prevention device*). I wanted to recce the place for my kilted kayaking of the mighty Grand.

*We could discuss the removal of this same said ego draining device on a future kilt night. PS, please bring Isadora.

**sathor** · 6th February 09, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Canuck

Thanks for the tips, we are currently looking into watermarking the photos

I would be more than glad to help you do that. I miss doing photo editing. You might be surprised how easy it is, since you probably already have a program to resize the pics in the first place.

**Canuck** · 6th February 09, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by ccga3359

Funny you say that. I was just last week trying to come up with an excuse to go to Cambridge kilted in my genuine black leather RKilt (with the optional built in kilt-check prevention device*). I wanted to recce the place for my kilted kayaking of the mighty Grand.

*We could discuss the removal of this same said ego draining device on a future kilt night. PS, please bring Isadora.

She's been lonesome of late...might just perk her up....warning her nose is cold!

Ya know there are at least a half a dozen black leather RKilt owners in the area all of which except one who are in the 6' 220lbs plus range. The other one almost as formidable if it wasn't for that chicke...n...spor...an oh um sorry Grant

**Canuck** · 6th February 09, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by sathor

I would be more than glad to help you do that. I miss doing photo editing. You might be surprised how easy it is, since you probably already have a program to resize the pics in the first place.

New photos are in the works and I just might take you up on the offer. Thanks

**Pleater** · 6th February 09, 04:59 PM

That type of person should be given what is known as 'a Scarborough warning' in my native Yorkshire - Scarborough is a coastal town which was famous for hanging for a first offense.

I would suggest alerting UK and suggest putting in a joint complaint to eBay - here in Britain they have been known to take such things very seriously.

If you can get them kicked off eBay at least it cuts off one source of customers for their copies and might make them think twice about trying the same trick with your kilt again.

Anne the Pleater

**ccga3359** · 6th February 09, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Pleater

That type of person should be given what is known as 'a Scarborough warning' in my native Yorkshire - Scarborough is a coastal town which was famous for hanging for a first offense.

I would suggest alerting UK and suggest putting in a joint complaint to eBay - here in Britain they have been known to take such things very seriously.

If you can get them kicked off eBay at least it cuts off one source of customers for their copies and might make them think twice about trying the same trick with your kilt again.

Anne the Pleater

In our Scarborough the "Scarborough warning" is to accidently spill their latte, appologize profusily and offer to replace it with a cappocino. McMurdo is from Scarborough.

Unfortunatly I hardly think that this would get them kicked off of ebay.

**Canuck** · 6th February 09, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by ccga3359

snip... Further searching also shows a UK as their Version 2. Why not drop a line to UK let them threaten lawsuits.

The kilt is not a Utility Kilt product. That one comes from Yonge and Wellesly area in Toronto. The culprit was at another trade show and took pictures of their product also. I have since contacted that company.

**Cavebear58** · 6th February 09, 06:05 PM

So let me get this right...

Someone has attended a public festival and has taken a photograph of one of your products. They have then photoshopped it, so even you had difficulty recognising it as your own item. They have then used this photograph to portray goods that they are having produced somewhere else, which they are selling at a fraction of the price of your own goods.

They have not grabbed the picture from your website.

Nappa leather is a term that has been in use since 1921 if not earlier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nappa_leather). It is a high quality leather renowned for softness and durability and is often used for car upholstery - because of its longevity.

If this character is known as Isaac, and I've seen the right ebay listing, then he hasn't claimed that the picture is actually the garment he is selling - nor has he disclaimed this either. He is not claiming that this is one of your products.

If I am understanding right, then I don't see what he has done that is wrong? Bit lazy, maybe, but wrong?

Unless he has actually produced an item that is clearly intended to look like one of your design protected* garments and endeavoured to pass it off as such then has he broken the law in the US?

* They ARE design protected, I trust?

Without seeing the real thing, which may not look anything like yours, I don't understand what his crime is?

Are people going to look at his product and say; "Hey that's one of rkilts garments going at a cheap price?" Maybe to an afficianado, but otherwise?

Sorry, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but if he is able to produce these with genuine nappa leather at $129 perhaps the question to be asking yourself is HOW and whether you can learn from him, as he's obviously found a good source of cheap leather tailoring.

I'd love to join the lynching party, but I have a feeling you need to change the law first before you take it into your own hands.

Best wishes, Graham.

**starbkjrus** · 6th February 09, 06:20 PM

Never Mind

**ccga3359** · 6th February 09, 06:23 PM

Illegal? Yes, he is misrepresenting his product. RKilts are unique (protected or not, I do not know) and easily recognizable to those of us that have seen (and own) them. For me to purchase from this person expecting to get what is pictured either I get a direct copy of an RKilt which is as I said - a unique design, or I get a completely looking kilt. By displaying that picture the recieved product would be paramount to fraud, clear cut. Graham, lets say I'm selling you a Reliant Robin sight unseen, I show you a picture from the factory archives of a gorgeous yellow model, yet when you receive it here is what you get:

Have I not just commited it fraud? It's what you ordered.
PS. the crankcase is filled with sawdust to eliminate the engine knocking, enjoy your new "Babe-magnet".