Kilted attire for attending a Wedding

[BroosterB1]

OK, this one is really timely!

Got a call this morning from a distraught bride to be (Long story, second wedding to same guy) she wanted a "special" but not elaborate (mean cheap) wedding.

Her guy is a firefighter and they are hoping to get this done on Friday! At his Fire house. Hey, I'm flexible.

Here's the deal. No time for rentals (I Know K lare is right here, but no way in three days), he can get the APD pipers there (yes they have their own pipe band) and his last name is ARAGON! (grand father was Mac Leash), so they want as Scottish as possible, but not necessarily "full Scottish" (ie kilts) .

I suggested a few things that could work, then she says "can you wear a Kilt like on your website?"

Now I'm not going to wear the golf blazer, no time to make it "kilt worthily" so the only alternative is a dress shirt and tie, no jacket, or my PC......Ok, Jock you make the call....

Told you guys this would work, just wish I had Jamie's or Glenn's wardrobe...

[Jock Scot]

OK, this one is really timely!

Got a call this morning from a distraught bride to be (Long story, second wedding to same guy) she wanted a "special" but not elaborate (mean cheap) wedding.

Her guy is a firefighter and they are hoping to get this done on Friday! At his Fire house. Hey, I'm flexible.

Here's the deal. No time for rentals (I Know K lare is right here, but no way in three days), he can get the APD pipers there (yes they have their own pipe band) and his last name is ARAGON! (grand father was Mac Leash), so they want as Scottish as possible, but not necessarily "full Scottish" (ie kilts) .

I suggested a few things that could work, then she says "can you wear a Kilt like on your website?"

Now I'm not going to wear the golf blazer, no time to make it "kilt worthily" so the only alternative is a dress shirt and tie, no jacket, or my PC......Ok, Jock you make the call....

Told you guys this would work, just wish I had Jamie's or Glenn's wardrobe...

Like any soldier in a sticky situation you have to fight with what you have got, which is never what you ought to have! So you have to go with what you have for this short notice wedding. Just so you understand too, we this side of the Atlantic call a dress shirt the sort that is worn with formal evening wear such as a PC(tux) NOT with a suit. I think you chaps call a dress shirt as one worn with a suit. Yes?

Ok, you asked me so here goes! I have no idea of the weather you have over there,so let's assume mild(ish)? Its a daytime wedding? It's not going to be formal? It's just(!) a special day for the bride, groom family and friends. Alright then the PC is out,it is not appropriate even in this situation.Why? You don't mention that anyone else is wearing a tux, so no PC.I would go with white shirt, four in hand tie(not tartan), kilt, solid colour hose, polished shoes and there you go. If its going to be on the chilly side, a dark blue or black pullover(sweater), worn over the white shirt, can look quite smart. If the wedding is an evening affair, (as far as I know we don't have those here), then your PC could come into play ,but beware of out shining the bride!

[SteveB]

Jock,
Spot on on the shirt lingo. U.K. dress shirt = U.S. formal shirt, and U.S. dress shirt = I believe U.K. day shirt. Gee, It has been a long time since being on that side of the puddle.
Slainte

[Jordan]

ok I've seen this mentoned a few times so I'm curious but why would someone not wear a pc to a wedding? I remember my auntie's (I think) wedding years ago I would have been 10 ish I think but I remember getting forced to wear a shirt and bow tie with a pc and that wedding was in the day with the reception at night

Jordan

[Phil]

ok I've seen this mentoned a few times so I'm curious but why would someone not wear a pc to a wedding? I remember my auntie's (I think) wedding years ago I would have been 10 ish I think but I remember getting forced to wear a shirt and bow tie with a pc and that wedding was in the day with the reception at night

Jordan

I am guessing that you wore a hired outfit. I know it is very usual here in Scotland to see wedding guests during the day wearing PC's and it is most likely because they have hired the outfits. It is perfectly OK for the evening reception but a PC should not properly be worn during the day. Not that that is any reason to stop you, just that it is not considered correct.

[McMurdo]

ok I've seen this mentoned a few times so I'm curious but why would someone not wear a pc to a wedding? I remember my auntie's (I think) wedding years ago I would have been 10 ish I think but I remember getting forced to wear a shirt and bow tie with a pc and that wedding was in the day with the reception at night

Jordan

Jordan
It simply goes back to the old rules regarding etiquette and dress. It used to be that a tuxedo was not worn before 6, and well the Prince Charlie is the Highland equivalent to a tuxedo. Is it a big deal? I think in North America it does not make as big a splash as it would in Scotland, or even England. At my twin Brother's wedding we all wore the Prince Charlie jacket, the piper however wore a Tweed Argyll jacket with a Hunting Sporran and a Masonic tie, he looked wonderful.

[Panache]

I am guessing that you wore a hired outfit. I know it is very usual here in Scotland to see wedding guests during the day wearing PC's and it is most likely because they have hired the outfits. It is perfectly OK for the evening reception but a PC should not properly be worn during the day. Not that that is any reason to stop you, just that it is not considered correct.

Isn't a grey tail coat (the name escapes me at the moment) the correct attire for the groom and groomsmen for a morning/ early afternoon wedding?

In which case would a charcoal argyll jacket, waist coat, dress shirt, and bow tie be most correct for a Highland wedding at the same time?

Cheers

Jamie

[Jock Scot]

Isn't a grey tail coat (the name escapes me at the moment) the correct attire for the groom and groomsmen for a morning/ early afternoon wedding?

In which case would a charcoal argyll jacket, waist coat, dress shirt, and bow tie be most correct for a Highland wedding at the same time?

Cheers

Jamie

If I may chip in here. The morning coat (top hat,tails etc.) is the equivalent to the black, silver buttoned argyll. Now if all/most of the guests are wearing morning suits, or, uniforms, then it is correct to wear the black,silver buttoned argyll too, although the tweed argyll will be seen too and no one will bat an eye at that. However if only the groom and say the best man(maybe immediate family too) are wearing a morning suits(Black argyll,silver buttons) then the guests would wear tweed. Again no one would bat an eye if you turned up with a black,silver buttoned argyll though.

It would be quite wrong to wear a tweed argyll,or,argyll of any description, dress shirt (UK definition) and bow tie, during the day. Is all this so all fired important? Well, in reality no, but it is nice to know what to do, if you feel you want to conform!

[Jordan]

Phil. It was a hired compleate with the White hose everyone loves so much

McMurdo I didn't know that about not wearing pc's or a tux before 6 thanks very much I'm sure it will come in handy

The jist I think I am getting here is that it's not technicaly correct to wear a pc to a daytime wedding or before 6 pm but I'd everyone else is go with the flow so to speak

Jordan

[Panache]

It would be quite wrong to wear a tweed argyll,or,argyll of any description, dress shirt (UK definition) and bow tie.

Interesting. I think Sandford had mentioned previously using a black argyll (with silver buttons) with a matching lower cut three button waistcoat with dress shirt and bow tie before.

With the exception of the Montrose, all the other formal jackets for highland attire have tails.

Standard formal jackets have a wider range of lengths.

Cheers

Jamie