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9th March 09, 03:33 PM
#1
a definition on jackets
Are ALL Argylle jackets black? If the jacket is a different color (for casual day wear for example) does it have a diferent cut and nomenclature?
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9th March 09, 03:54 PM
#2
Last edited by Bugbear; 10th March 09 at 06:14 PM.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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9th March 09, 03:59 PM
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They can be any colour you like, any tweed that works for jackets, even tartan and corduroy!
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9th March 09, 04:43 PM
#4
Thanks to Burnett's & Struth for the following illustration.
An Argyle is defined as having a Gauntlet Cuff.
The Braymer and Crail have different cuff arrangements but share the Pocket flap and epaulettes with the Argyle.
Each of these Jackets can be in Black Barathea Wool, Tweeds of colors such as Charoal Gray, Lovat Blue, Lovat Green and many others.
As said before, on Black Wool Argyles, the Buttons are usually Silver Diamonds. On Tweed Jackets the Buttons are usually real or simulated Horn.
If you are looking for one step down in "Dressyness" from these there is the Kilt Kut Sport Coat which does away with the Epaulettes, Scalloped Pocket Flap, and has a normal 3 or 4 Button Jacket Cuff.
Steve Ashton
www.freedomkilts.com
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I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
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9th March 09, 05:55 PM
#5
Last edited by Bugbear; 10th March 09 at 06:14 PM.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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9th March 09, 06:14 PM
#6
Argyll Jackets
The Argyll day/evening jacket is versatile, altering its formality with accessories.
Suitable for all occasions, from dinners and Burns Suppers, balls and ceilidhs, to weddings, graduations,
Highland games or simply as general day wear.
Braemar Jackets
Similar to the Argyll jacket, but with more formal Prince Charlie style cuffs,
the versatile Braemar can alter its formality by changing accessories.
Suitable for all occasions, from dinners and dances, to graduations and weddings,
or simply as smart day wear.
Crail Jackets
Similar to the Argyll jacket, but with less formal plain cuffs, the day/evening wear Crail outfit
is often seen at events such as ceilidhs, games, or simply as general office or day wear.
Also suitable for wedding guests too.
I hope this helps.
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10th March 09, 03:22 AM
#7
What would be the name of this jacket ?
Notice the "inversed" cuff arrangement and... no epaulettes !
My Lady Chrystel is planning to make me one for my birthday along with a waist coat.
It would be nice if I could give it a name !
Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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10th March 09, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ancienne Alliance
What would be the name of this jacket ?
Notice the "inversed" cuff arrangement and... no epaulettes !
My Lady Chrystel is planning to make me one for my birthday along with a waist coat.
It would be nice if I could give it a name !
Best,
Robert
You could call it a "Dunconnel", Robert, in honour of the pic of Sir Fitzroy.
The issue that bothers me about all this nomenclature is that everyone here gets so concerned about it! One would go to one's tailor and have a jacket made in whatever style that suited his fancy. I try to resist calling jackets "Argyll," or "Crail" or "Braemar." I just like a tweed day jacket with gauntlet cuffs--that's how I describe them.
Sir Fitzroy, BTW, had a very fine sense of style. Many of the clothes he wore were exquisite and were certainly unique.
Cheers,
Sandy
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10th March 09, 06:10 PM
#9
Originally Posted by fortcollinsjerry
Are ALL Argylle jackets black? If the jacket is a different color (for casual day wear for example) does it have a diferent cut and nomenclature?
Black is usually stock for most barathea Argylls, but they are occasionally made in burgundy, bottle green, and navy. Tweeds are usually available in charcoal, lovat green, lovat blue, and lovat grey.
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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14th March 09, 12:30 PM
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Just a note that may be of interest. Although the Argyll and Braemar style daywear jackets are very popular and look exceptionally good with the kilt, one might notice that many Clan Chiefs (and Prince Charles in particular) seldom wear kilt jackets that have the gauntlet or scalloped cuffs, choosing instead to wear a very plain style tweed or barathea jacket with no eppulattes and ordinary cuffs and pocket-flaps. This is probably out of a desire to not appear overly ostentatious and present an air of quiet dignity. There are those who denounce the plain look as being a Sassanach style and is not in keeping with the Highlander's fondness of ornament; but it is favored among the aristocracy, at least for everyday dress.
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