Wearing a PC in the Daytime??

[Jock Scot]

I do think that we need a separate forum for "classic" highland attire.

The Traditional kilt forum should be more or less about traditional kilts.

That is rather easy to regulate. When we start talking about style then a clear division between historical, classic, and modern ones with their own specific spot on XMTS would be useful.

Alan follows the conventions of the modern formal style.

You obviously are devoted to the classic one

Hamish happily glides through them all

Everyone looks good

As always Jock, I am very grateful for the information you and the others contribute. I like knowing the conventions. I may not always follow them (bucket hat) but I sure as heck want to make sure that when I do it is by choice.

Cheers

Jamie

Jamie I have slept on this issue of "Clasical" and "traditional" definitions. I can see what you are trying to achieve and of course in this modern day and age of neat lables,boxes,etc. that would make life so much simpler. Try as I might I can't really see any differance between "Clasical" kilts and attire and "traditional" ones. They are one and the same thing in my view and have been, more or less, since about the 1820's.

[Bugbear]

Jamie I have slept on this issue of "Clasical" and "traditional" definitions. I can see what you are trying to achieve and of course in this modern day and age of neat lables,boxes,etc. that would make life so much simpler. Try as I might I can't really see any differance between "Clasical" kilts and "traditional" ones. They are one and the same thing in my view and have been, more or less, since about the 1820's.

Jock, I think Panache is talking about all the accessories like hose, sporrans, bonnets, doublets, Argyles, etc, rather than the actual kilt. So wearing a Prince Charlie with silver mounted fur sporran, tartan or diced hose, and black bow tie for black tie attire would be classic black tie attire. Or a tweed Argyle with waistcoat, self colored hose, and four-in-hand tie would be classic daywear in Highland attire.

[Jock Scot]

Jock, I think Panache is talking about all the accessories like hose, sporrans, bonnets, doublets, Argyles, etc, rather than the actual kilt. So wearing a Prince Charlie with silver mounted fur sporran, tartan or diced hose, and black bow tie for black tie attire would be classic black tie attire.

Actually Ted so did I,in part. Although the PC is a bit of a late comer to the show. I will add the word attire.

[Bugbear]

Actually Ted so did I! Although the PC is a bit of a late comer to the show. I will add the word attire.

Ok, just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page, so to speak.

[Jock Scot]

Jock, I think Panache is talking about all the accessories like hose, sporrans, bonnets, doublets, Argyles, etc, rather than the actual kilt. So wearing a Prince Charlie with silver mounted fur sporran, tartan or diced hose, and black bow tie for black tie attire would be classic black tie attire. Or a tweed Argyle with waistcoat, self colored hose, and four-in-hand tie would be classic daywear in Highland attire.

Ted this is getting silly. The kilt attire that you call "classic" is one and the same thing as "traditional" and in my view has been that way,with a few addaptions,modifications,additions,subtractions along the way,since the 1820's. I am not for one second saying that things should be frozen in time. Kilt and kilt attire history clearly demonstrates that it adapts and changes.Nevertheless there are still conventions,courtesies and traditions to be observed.

[Bugbear]

Ted this is getting silly. The kilt attire that you call "classic" is one and the same thing as "traditional" and in my view has been that way,with a few addaptions,modifications,additions,subtractions along the way,since the 1820's. I am not for one second saying that things should be frozen in time. Kilt and kilt attire history clearly demonstrates that it adapts and changes.Nevertheless there are still conventions,courtesies and traditions to be observed.

I don't have any problem with the term "traditional highland attire." Or "traditional kilt attire." It's not really that much of a difference in my mind from classic either. What can I do?

I didn't come up with it.

Guess I did say that I like the sound of "classic Highland attire," but it does kind of sound catchy...

How did I end up here again, and when will I learn?