I will go out on a limb (and I suppose that I will be taken to task for it) and say that one of the things that disturbs me here is the way that the context, subject, title, and sub-forum in some of these posts gets completely hijacked. I'm one who understands that you cannot control the way a discussion goes...what twists and turn it will take...but we do have a sub-forum entitled "Traditional Kilts." That sets the overall tone and should warn people what kind of conversations they are getting into. It is not the "General Kilt Talk" nor the "Contemporary and Non-Traditional Kilt" forum.

When someone jumps into a conversation like this and brings up "ultilkilts" or white socks...when none of these have been previously mentioned, my first thought is that it is an attempt to change the subject. Or to argue just for the sake of argument. At what point does it become deliberately provocative?

And to what purpose? To deny those who respect traditional Highland Attire a "voice" on this forum?

It begs the question, my friends.