Armigerous Clans

[cessna152towser]

Article on armigerous clans on wiki here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armigerous_clan

An armigerous clan refers to a Scottish clan, family or name which is registered with the Court of the Lord Lyon and once had a chief who bore undifferenced arms, but does not have a chief currently recognised as such by Lyon Court. Before 1745 all chiefs had arms, however not all of these are recorded in the Public Register of All Arms and Bearings in Scotland, which was only established in 1672. In Scottish heraldry undifferenced arms are only held by chiefs or heads of clans, families or names. A clan is considered a "noble incorporation" because a clan chief is a title of honour in Scotland and the chief confers his or her noble status onto the clan. Because armigerous clans do not have such chiefs, they are not recognised as noble communities and have no legal standing under Scots law.

[wyldathart]

I'm going to fire off a email to my clan chief about the subject and see what he says. I'm sure the office of the Lord Lyon would be more than happy to weigh in. Interesting subject. My curiosity is piqued now

[Chas]

Article on armigerous clans on wiki here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armigerous_clan

The Wikipedia article made no sense to me the first time I read it and make even less now. It would make sense if the article were to be called Non-Armigerous Clans, but why not just call them Chiefless or Headless Clans. All the references deal with Chiefs, Clans and Families, but there is no reference to "Armigerous".

Regards

Chas

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Article on armigerous clans on wiki here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armigerous_clan

Well, the above quote from wikipedia is just garbage.

Folks, when it comes to Scottish heraldry, do yourself a favour. Don't rely on Wikipedia; get one of the following books:

Scotland's Heraldic Heritage by Charles J. Burnett and Mark D. Dennis
Scots Heraldry by Sir Thomas Innes of Learney
Scottish Clan and Family Encyclopedia by Geo. Way of Plean and Romilly Squire;
Scottish Heraldry Made Easy by G. Harvey Johnston
Simple Heraldry by Sir Iain Moncrieff of that Ilk and Don Pottenger

[gilmore]

As is often said, information on Wikipedia is worth every penny you pay for it.