X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 25
  1. #1
    Join Date
    21st December 05
    Location
    Hawick, Scotland
    Posts
    11,093
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Cavers, home of the Balliols and later of the Black Douglases


    Hidden away in a small clearing amid a large pine plantation can be found the ruins of Cavers House. A castle was originally constructed on this site by the Balliols around 1200 and inhabited by them for the next two hundred years. The Douglases played a significant role in the banishing of the Bailliols from Scotland and Cavers Castle passed to the Black Douglas lineage. Sir Archibald Douglas, 3rd Earl of Douglas constructed a new tower house on the site of Bailliol's castle after he succeeded to the earldom when James Douglas fell at the Battle of Otterburn in 1388. James Douglas' banner, and the captured pennon of Henry Percy (Hotspur) were preserved here until Victorian times.

    Two horse chestnut trees were planted by the Douglases at the entrance to the tower in 1604 and one of them is still alive today.

    A travelling witch and her daughter sought refuge in the tower but were discovered during the night and turned out by the Douglases. As they left the witch put a curse on the tree that every time a branch would touch the ground a Douglas would die. The curse only ended when the tree was felled in the twentieth century. Here are two sections of the trunk, and the bole can just be spotted between them.

    Perchance I may have a vivid imagination, but I saw this section of the cursed tree as resembling a crocodile.

    Anyway, lets get on with exploring the house. First impressions are uninspiring as we initially see the 19th century extension. Cavers Tower was occupied by descendents of Sir Archibald Douglas, 3rd earl, until the 20th descendent James Douglas esq. of Cavers died in 1878 leaving the male line extinct. The property passed to his niece Mary Malcolm who married Captain Edward Palmer in 1879 and the Palmer-Douglases then extensively re-modelled the property as Cavers House between 1881 and 1887. Later the house fell in to disuse and the Palmer-Douglases made it available to the army, to be used for an exercise in demolition by explosives, and the house was detonated by the army in 1953. More to follow shortly.
    Last edited by cessna152towser; 18th March 09 at 01:46 PM.
    Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    23rd August 08
    Location
    Displaced 3rd generation Californian now residing in the "old" State of Jefferson, USA
    Posts
    4,186
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Nice photos and an interesting history. Look forward to hearing (and seeing) more.
    [I][B]Nearly all men can stand adversity. If you really want to test a man’s character,
    Give him power.[/B][/I] - [I]Abraham Lincoln[/I]

  3. #3
    Join Date
    21st December 05
    Location
    Hawick, Scotland
    Posts
    11,093
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    To continue the tale, the army's explosives brought down about half of the Victorian structure but made little impression on the mediaeval part of the house.
    Through my Scottish Country Dance class I met the current owner of the ruins who took me to see the property today.

    The Victorian alterations included this semi-circular extension at the east end of the building.

    To the left of the above view, the older, or southmost, section of the east wall, showing the tower, into which large window apertures were cut during the nineteenth century alterations.

    Yes, the date stone on the tower does say 1200, but this was made by a nineteenth century stone mason. The tower into which it has been set was probably constructed at least two hundred years later, on the site of the original castle which dated from around 1200.

    It was difficult to get a photo of the south wall because of all the trees. Note the Victorian bay window towards the right, and the mediaeval arrow slit towards bottom left. More about the arrow slit later.

    The west wall

    Looking up the west wall.

    So let's explore inside!
    Last edited by cessna152towser; 18th March 09 at 10:54 AM.
    Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    8th January 08
    Location
    The Bayou City - Houston, TX
    Posts
    6,730
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Absolutely riveting! I enjoyed that and agree that the felled trunk does look like a gator, or a croc.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    5th August 08
    Location
    Lancashire, England
    Posts
    4,345
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cessna152towser View Post

    I say, Has someone made away with your pleats?

    Great set of pictures though!!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    21st December 05
    Location
    Hawick, Scotland
    Posts
    11,093
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Access is now gained through what would have been an internal door in the Victorian wing.

    Victorian fireplace. Note how the deposit of stone and dust from the army demolition exercise has raised the ground level.

    Looking through a doorway in the wall between the Victorian section and the mediaeval part of the house. The ground falls away to the south and the older southmost part of the house had a lower floor which was only above ground level on its south face. Traditionally the entrance level of a Scottish tower house had a vaulted cellar and the Laird's Hall was on a raised level directly above the cellar. There was an arched vault running parallel with the south wall which was demolished in the Victorian alterations. Therefore the original Laird's Hall would have been level with the ground floor of the Victorian wing which was entered from the other (higher) side. The Victorian wooden floor has collapsed and silt and stone from the demolition has partly filled the cellar area.

    The interior of the west wall.

    The interior of the east wall.

    A mediaeval piscine set into the south wall.

    Looking out through the arrow slit in the south wall. In olden times a good view of approaching invaders from England would have been obtained from here, before the growth of the pine trees.

    The partial demolition of the vaulted arch by the Victorians and the later collapse of the Victorian floor has allowed us to get down below the floor level of the original laird's hall. Looking east, we can see that the eastmost end of the stone floor was retained in the Victorian alterations. Where the stone and wooden floors joined, the top part of a lower level passageway has become exposed.

    Down there and off through that opening to the left, I am told that mediaeval vaults still survive intact, but to explore them would need a good torch and the confidence of knowing that one would be capable of clambering back up into the daylight again. Note the substantial metal peg on which a door would once have hung. Hope you enjoyed.
    Last edited by cessna152towser; 18th March 09 at 01:51 PM.
    Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    9th April 08
    Location
    Kelso, WA, USA
    Posts
    247
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Incredible! I wish I had something like this to share. Here in the Pacific Northwest of the US everything was made of wood. Most of the historical building have rotted due to the wet conditions. Someday I hope to make it to Scotland to see places like this first hand. Thanks for sharing the photos and the information. I am a glutton for history.

    James
    James Gorley
    Highland Thrower

  8. #8
    Join Date
    9th February 08
    Location
    D/FW Texas area
    Posts
    1,538
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Amazing! Thanks so much for sharing these The lighting gave the photos such a dreamlike quality -- loved them!

  9. #9
    puffer is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    29th December 07
    Location
    KENT WAQ
    Posts
    944
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    WOW!! You made my DAY. GREAT TOUR & More INFO
    As you fnow, I have a Direct Line with the BLAC DOUGLASSES. ( in 1622 my "branch" came to N. Amer.)


    I Have 2 ???

    1. The LOCATION of the "Castle" ???
    2. Any idea of who was in possession of the LAND ( Estate) in 1600-1620s ???

    Puffer

  10. #10
    Join Date
    18th July 08
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    1,362
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!!

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Black Tie means a bow tie not a black coloured tie
    By Good Egg in forum How to Accessorize your Kilt
    Replies: 57
    Last Post: 9th January 09, 09:19 AM
  2. I'm Home!
    By BonnieT100 in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 16th July 08, 04:19 PM
  3. Gone home
    By kiltedinUSMC in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 9th June 08, 07:16 PM
  4. Black on black on Black (kilt ninja style for wedding)
    By michael wilson in forum Kilt Advice
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 20th January 08, 02:37 PM
  5. Home away from home
    By Nick in forum Miscellaneous Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 17th September 07, 09:20 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0