Stewart clan septs?

**dfmacliam** · 28th April 09, 10:37 AM

I am constantly looking online for information about my Scottish links through the Claghorn family, yesterday I found a tartan listed for Clan Cleghorn which is a variant spelling of the same family. While looking in this new direction I found a website that listed both Claghorn and Cleghorn as being septs of the Stewarts. Is it possible if no link to a family is found they use the Stewart as a default? Or is it that this family is a true sept of the Stewarts.
I will say that the Tartan Finder on Matt Newsomes website, I might add I find the Cleghorn tartan to be very attractive. It is numbered 4144 on the registry.

**kscaddo** · 28th April 09, 10:51 AM

I am North Texas Commissioner of the Stewart Society in America. I just checked all my paperwork and found no mention of these names connected with any of the Stewart branches. I also checked here; http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/spellings.htm
I may be wrong as I don't consider myself an expert. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
Regards,
Ken

**dfmacliam** · 28th April 09, 11:03 AM

Thanks, I found this info online and we know how that is. Your information is better than what I located. The website I found this information on was kiltmakers.com/septs it's possible they had no information on the clan so they used Stewart as a default maybe.. I appreciate your information and I know that their site is wrong.

**dfmacliam** · 28th April 09, 01:30 PM

I have looked at the Scottish Tartan Authority and they refer to Stewart Hunting, Stewart Black, and Stewart old, besides the Cleghorn. So maybe there is an old tie somewhere.

**raibeart_dubh** · 28th April 09, 01:32 PM

Perhaps you may want to try this link:

http://www.colquitt.k12.ga.us/public...escendants.htm

This is a public library near where I live and they have a huge collection of Scottish genealogy. These are their listings for Claghorn/Cleghorn. Perhaps you could email them and turn up some info. I have visited this library before and they have a huge amount of Scottish ancestry information. I could spend years in there.

**gilmore** · 28th April 09, 01:47 PM

I would take it all with a bushel of salt.

There is all sorts of information and misinformation about which names are or may be associated with a clan---or 2 or 3 or more. Some of it is put out by clan associations in search of as many members as possible. Much of it is promoted by tartan merchants with more merchandise to sell than scruples.

There are only two ways to know with any degree of certainty which, if any, clan your ancestors were associated with. One is the slow, arduous, yet certain work of genealogical research, carefully tracing your ancestors backward in time, documenting one generation before moving on to their parents.

The other method has come into being in the last 7 or 8 years. Y chromosome DNA is passed from father to son, as are surnames. A man can test for it and MAY discover men whose DNA matches his. Or one may discover nothing useful. Or, more likely, one may discover who one is NOT related to, and thus areas where further research is not likely to prove fruitful.

Family Tree DNA at www.familytreedna.com has the largest database of all the genealogical DNA testing companies, and is therefore most likely to have matches, or nearer matches, with other men. Their FAQ is fairly good at explaining how it works. Costs of the tests range from US$99 to US$300, depending on how exactly you hope to match with others. And you can upgrade later. If you join through a surname project, there is sometimes a discount.

Good luck!

**The Wizard of BC** · 28th April 09, 03:38 PM

Just to muddy the waters a little more I just checked ScotClans.com and they list "Claghorn" as a Sept of Stewart but not "Cleghorn".

I think it's all a plot by those wiley French to divide and conquer.

**JolyStNicholas** · 28th April 09, 05:37 PM

Thanks Ken for the "electricscotland.com site info, I have been on it sense reading your post and have found loads of new info for my own search for the Clan Seton.

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 28th April 09, 08:14 PM

Cleghorn, if memory serves me, is a place in Lanarkshire. If this is the source of the name I'm foxed to see how it could be part of clan Stewart.

**wvpiper** · 29th April 09, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC

Just to muddy the waters a little more I just checked ScotClans.com and they list "Claghorn" as a Sept of Stewart but not "Cleghorn".

I think it's all a plot by those wiley French to divide and conquer.

Scotclans.com is also neat because you can hear the Gaelic pronounciation of the surnames.

Are the branches of the Stewarts related? It's rather difficult to read through the history and try and piece it all together