St George`s day

[dfmacliam]

I agree with that too.. My grandfather left Dublin, and went to England to help fight in WWII, my uncles and cousins have served in all of the British Forces. I came to the States at an early age and I have served in the US Marines. I know about the sacrifices so many can make for a Flag.. I was in Beirut.. I saw death on a grand scale because of the flag we wore. We have all served our people, and in return all we ask is to be recognized..
Yes, we all have our Flags, the Welsh, the English, the Scots, the Manx, heck even the Texans.. But as a National Standard... A green stripe couldn't hurt could it?

[ccga3359]

I agree with that too.. My grandfather left Dublin, and went to England to help fight in WWII, my uncles and cousins have served in all of the British Forces. I came to the States at an early age and I have served in the US Marines. I know about the sacrifices so many can make for a Flag.. I was in Beirut.. I saw death on a grand scale because of the flag we wore. We have all served our people, and in return all we ask is to be recognized..
Yes, we all have our Flags, the Welsh, the English, the Scots, the Manx, heck even the Texans.. But as a National Standard... A green stripe couldn't hurt could it?

I offer this for thought. The Vimy Ridge memorial is a major part of all Canadians, and although Canadians are generally subdued in honouring those fallen, it remains a great source of pride and as important symbol as the Maple Leaf, hockey, poutines or maple syrup on back bacon. It is the national Canadian monument to the sacrifices made by so many and as important as any found on this side of the Atlantic. Canada adopted the Maple Leaf flag in 1965 and it was this only flag that government protocol dictated could be flown on federal property. Many veterans groups were appalled at this because those who fought and died did so under the Canadian Red Ensign. Thankfully it was anounced by our prime Minister that both the Red Ensign and the Maple Leaf will fly there in equal standing.

I was born the same year that Canada adopted her new flag, a flag that by decision purposely does not show our British, our French or our Native history but that of one nation. Below is our original flag, the one that flys at Vimy, one that does show our history.

As an Englishman, to change the Union flag would be a dishonour to those that whose blood has soaked into the battlefields across the channel and at home, the blood of people of all countries in the British Isles. As a Canadian I'm proud that the Maple Leaf flys along side the Red Ensign in France, it honours those we lost so recently and those we lost so long ago.

[dfmacliam]

I respect your point of view, I can only speak from my life experiences and beliefs, as you speak for yours. It's understanding anothers point of view, that allows you to grow with yours. I do understand the point you are making and I realize your perspective is an all inclusive of all the Commonwealths, while mine were only pertaining to the British Isles.

[McClef]

Grant,

I already explained the status of the Channel Island and the Isle of Man - in many ways they are like Puerto Rico in their relationship with the mainland.

And if and when the Six Counties did unite with the Irish Republic all claims to St Patrick on the flag would become redundant. It would become a historical anomaly. It is no disrespect to those who have died in wars to change a flag, and to turn your argument around what of all the Welsh blood that has been spilt in wars? Are there any cemeteries in France that purely contain the graves of Welsh soldiers and over which the flag of Wales could currently be flown?

[macwilkin]

And if and when the Six Counties did unite with the Irish Republic all claims to St Patrick on the flag would become redundant. It would become a historical anomaly.

Tell that to the men of the 36th (Ulster) Division who died on the first day of the Somme, 1 July 1916.

Regards,

Todd

[Peter C.]

My family were channel Islanders from the11th century until the end of the 19th century when my branch of the family moved to England and another branch moved to Canada.
The Channel Islands are dependecies of the british monarch. They are not part of the UK except for defence and foreign affairs. They have their own government and their own flags. They do not use the Union flag.

Peter

[Peter C.]

Tell that to the men of the 36th (Ulster) Division who died on the first day of the Somme, 1 July 1916.

Regards,

Todd

I have great respect for all those who gave their lives in all of our wars. I often manage to get my UK holiday to include the 11th November so that I can honour the fallen.

However as the flag was evolving there were always soldiers and sailors who had made the ultimate scarifice under the old flag, but the flag was changed to suit present conditions.

We must always respect and remember people who make the ultimate sacrifice and we must learn from the past, but we must not live in it.

Peter

[thanmuwa]

I have great respect for all those who gave their lives in all of our wars. I often manage to get my UK holiday to include the 11th November so that I can honour the fallen.

However as the flag was evolving there were always soldiers and sailors who had made the ultimate scarifice under the old flag, but the flag was changed to suit present conditions.

We must always respect and remember people who make the ultimate sacrifice and we must learn from the past, but we must not live in it.

Peter

Eloquently put.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Yes, we all have our Flags, the Welsh, the English, the Scots, the Manx, heck even the Texans.. But as a National Standard... A green stripe couldn't hurt could it?

Green wouldn't apply, in this case. The livery colours of Wales are Gold and Red (Or and Gules), as taken from the arms of Wales, in the same way the livery colours of the United States are Red, White and Blue, as taken from the arms of the United States.

[O'Callaghan]

It is that flag that is the canton of so many other nations to signify their connection with Britain.

Including Hawaii, LOL! (Yes, I know it's a US state, but the Union Jack in it has nothing to do with that). Next time I hear A Nation Once Again I will be thinking of Hawaii instead of Ireland.