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Oh to have his collection of kilts!!
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Habits of the Auld Guard...
 Originally Posted by Nick
Sometimes I'll take out my watch, open it, look at it, put it back, and not actually take in the time. It's just a habitual act, but kind of embarassing when someone then asks the time and I have to look again. 
I used to wear a pocket watch and did the same thing- it kinda becomes a compulsion. At least it looks cool! 
 Originally Posted by Bryan
Oh to have his collection of kilts!!
I was wondering if the Prince gets "poo-pooed" by the Scottish old school because he wears so many different tartans, as I was told in no uncertain terms that you would be frowned upon in Scotland for wearing kilts in different tartans? Or is he an exception to the rule because of all his various official "titles" and such, eg Duke of Rothesay, Colonel of the Gordon Highlanders(?), Prince of Wales, etc etc. I recognised only one or two of the Tartans that he wore, so can't tell if they are directly related to the event or function he is attending.
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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 Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
I was wondering if the Prince gets "poo-pooed" by the Scottish old school because he wears so many different tartans, as I was told in no uncertain terms that you would be frowned upon in Scotland for wearing kilts in different tartans? .
Certainly the old School Highlander would have no problems with the different kilts the Prince wears: he is entitled to those tartans! Just off the top of my head, I know he wears various Stewart tartans (including a Dress Royal Stewart for some evening events), the Balmoral tartan ( reserved for the exclusive use of the Royal Family and their retainers ), the Lord of the Isles tartan ( for, after all, he is the Lord of the Isles ), Black Watch, Gordon, Duke of Rothesay. I'm probably missing a few!
The "poo-pooing" DTY is referring to would be in reference to those who wear tartans to which they have no connection. While some/most have no problem with this, in certain parts of the Highlands eyebrows can--and are-raised when people wear a tartan to which they have no connection!
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Curiouser and Curiouser....
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
Certainly the old School Highlander would have no problems with the different kilts the Prince wears: he is entitled to those tartans! Just off the top of my head, I know he wears various Stewart tartans (including a Dress Royal Stewart for some evening events), the Balmoral tartan ( reserved for the exclusive use of the Royal Family and their retainers ), the Lord of the Isles tartan ( for, after all, he is the Lord of the Isles ), Black Watch, Gordon, Duke of Rothesay. I'm probably missing a few!
The "poo-pooing" DTY is referring to would be in reference to those who wear tartans to which they have no connection. While some/most have no problem with this, in certain parts of the Highlands eyebrows can--and are-raised when people wear a tartan to which they have no connection!
I figured he usually wore a tartan of some association as you stated, but not being familiar with the PoW's honourifics nor the associated tartans, I had to ask. Would "Lord of the Isles" be an official honourific or just a technicality?
It just occurred to me: wasn't his grandmother from Scotland? Does anyone know what her maiden name would have been (and its associated tartan)? For that matter, now that I think on it more, what is the Royal family's surname- Windsor??? I don't know if I've ever really thought about that? Curious...
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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 Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
For that matter, now that I think on it more, what is the Royal family's surname- Windsor??? I don't know if I've ever really thought about that? Curious...
The family's original name is not Windsor. It's Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They took the name Windsor after, I believe Windsor Castle, during the First World War to distance themselves from their German ancestry. In fact, George V, who had the name changed, was the first cousin of Kaiser Wilhelm II. George V's wife, Queen Mary, was also a descendant of the Royal House of Württemberg.
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It just occurred to me: wasn't his grandmother from Scotland? Does anyone know what her maiden name would have been (and its associated tartan)?
Bowles-Lyon; her father was the 14th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne.
T.
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Cheers
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Bowles-Lyon; her father was the 14th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne.
T.
Ta for that.
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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12th June 09, 02:56 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
I figured he usually wore a tartan of some association as you stated, but not being familiar with the PoW's honourifics nor the associated tartans, I had to ask. Would "Lord of the Isles" be an official honourific or just a technicality?
It just occurred to me: wasn't his grandmother from Scotland? Does anyone know what her maiden name would have been (and its associated tartan)? For that matter, now that I think on it more, what is the Royal family's surname- Windsor??? I don't know if I've ever really thought about that? Curious...
Others have given the answer for the surname, Bowes-Lyon, which I knew but which didn't come to mind immediately. However, nobody seems to have noted that there is a Lyon clan tartan:-
http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar....aspx?ref=2256
ETA: Apparently it's a variant of Black Watch with a colour substitution.
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 Originally Posted by Bryan
Oh to have his collection of kilts!!
O to have his valet to care for the collection of kilts!
Animo non astutia
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8th June 09, 03:54 AM
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 Originally Posted by McFarkus
O to have his valet to care for the collection of kilts!
I think even Jeeves would have a hard time keeping up!
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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