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6th June 09, 07:13 AM
#41
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6th June 09, 07:35 AM
#42
Habits of the Auld Guard...
Originally Posted by Nick
Sometimes I'll take out my watch, open it, look at it, put it back, and not actually take in the time. It's just a habitual act, but kind of embarassing when someone then asks the time and I have to look again.
I used to wear a pocket watch and did the same thing- it kinda becomes a compulsion. At least it looks cool!
Originally Posted by Bryan
Oh to have his collection of kilts!!
I was wondering if the Prince gets "poo-pooed" by the Scottish old school because he wears so many different tartans, as I was told in no uncertain terms that you would be frowned upon in Scotland for wearing kilts in different tartans? Or is he an exception to the rule because of all his various official "titles" and such, eg Duke of Rothesay, Colonel of the Gordon Highlanders(?), Prince of Wales, etc etc. I recognised only one or two of the Tartans that he wore, so can't tell if they are directly related to the event or function he is attending.
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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6th June 09, 11:53 AM
#43
Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
I was wondering if the Prince gets "poo-pooed" by the Scottish old school because he wears so many different tartans, as I was told in no uncertain terms that you would be frowned upon in Scotland for wearing kilts in different tartans? .
Certainly the old School Highlander would have no problems with the different kilts the Prince wears: he is entitled to those tartans! Just off the top of my head, I know he wears various Stewart tartans (including a Dress Royal Stewart for some evening events), the Balmoral tartan ( reserved for the exclusive use of the Royal Family and their retainers ), the Lord of the Isles tartan ( for, after all, he is the Lord of the Isles ), Black Watch, Gordon, Duke of Rothesay. I'm probably missing a few!
The "poo-pooing" DTY is referring to would be in reference to those who wear tartans to which they have no connection. While some/most have no problem with this, in certain parts of the Highlands eyebrows can--and are-raised when people wear a tartan to which they have no connection!
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6th June 09, 11:57 AM
#44
Originally Posted by Fougasse
I have noticed that he almost always prefers, in day dress, a light blue shirt. It goes well with all his outfits.
I generally prefer a light blue shirt myself. I have a nice one with just the slightest herringbone pattern from Brooks Brothers that goes quite well with Highland attire.
But tattersall or a windowpaine "country" shirt also works well with a tweed jacket.
T.
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6th June 09, 12:30 PM
#45
Curiouser and Curiouser....
Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
Certainly the old School Highlander would have no problems with the different kilts the Prince wears: he is entitled to those tartans! Just off the top of my head, I know he wears various Stewart tartans (including a Dress Royal Stewart for some evening events), the Balmoral tartan ( reserved for the exclusive use of the Royal Family and their retainers ), the Lord of the Isles tartan ( for, after all, he is the Lord of the Isles ), Black Watch, Gordon, Duke of Rothesay. I'm probably missing a few!
The "poo-pooing" DTY is referring to would be in reference to those who wear tartans to which they have no connection. While some/most have no problem with this, in certain parts of the Highlands eyebrows can--and are-raised when people wear a tartan to which they have no connection!
I figured he usually wore a tartan of some association as you stated, but not being familiar with the PoW's honourifics nor the associated tartans, I had to ask. Would "Lord of the Isles" be an official honourific or just a technicality?
It just occurred to me: wasn't his grandmother from Scotland? Does anyone know what her maiden name would have been (and its associated tartan)? For that matter, now that I think on it more, what is the Royal family's surname- Windsor??? I don't know if I've ever really thought about that? Curious...
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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6th June 09, 12:50 PM
#46
Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
For that matter, now that I think on it more, what is the Royal family's surname- Windsor??? I don't know if I've ever really thought about that? Curious...
The family's original name is not Windsor. It's Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They took the name Windsor after, I believe Windsor Castle, during the First World War to distance themselves from their German ancestry. In fact, George V, who had the name changed, was the first cousin of Kaiser Wilhelm II. George V's wife, Queen Mary, was also a descendant of the Royal House of Württemberg.
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6th June 09, 01:06 PM
#47
It just occurred to me: wasn't his grandmother from Scotland? Does anyone know what her maiden name would have been (and its associated tartan)?
Bowles-Lyon; her father was the 14th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne.
T.
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6th June 09, 01:08 PM
#48
Cheers
Originally Posted by cajunscot
Bowles-Lyon; her father was the 14th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne.
T.
Ta for that.
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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6th June 09, 03:32 PM
#49
Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
It just occurred to me: wasn't his grandmother from Scotland? Does anyone know what her maiden name would have been (and its associated tartan)? For that matter, now that I think on it more, what is the Royal family's surname- Windsor??? I don't know if I've ever really thought about that? Curious...
The late Queen Mother wasn't actually born in Scotland but on her father's English estate though she was raised in Scotland at Glamis Castle.
Technically the family has two names Windsor (The Royal House) and Mountbatten-Windsor but the latter is only applied to descendants of the Queen who are not directly in the line of succession. Both The Princess Royal and the Duke of York used this when signing their marriage registers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten-Windsor
Prince Philip was most unhappy at the time of his wedding that his children would not take his family name as happened with the children of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert (Edward VII being Saxe-Coburg and not Hanover) and George V beginning his reign with that surname also). The Queen being pressured to declare her "will and pleasure" in a 1960 Order In Council that she and her descendants were to retain the Windsor name.
Charles may have a different "will and pleasure" on the matter upon ascending the throne - only time will tell.
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Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
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7th June 09, 02:22 AM
#50
How do you pronounce Rothesay ?
Roth - zee ?
Roth - the - say ?
Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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