"That's not a real kilt"

[ghostlight]

I prefer to decide for myself, but respect dissenting opinions. I encourage the original poster and his friend to do the same. Such is the manner of friendship. I try to remember to compliment when I see something I appreciate. I try to remember to remain tactful if not silent when I see something I do not.

Respect cannot be given, earned or learned through ridicule.

[skauwt]

I rather think that many will agree with your friend, particularly from Scotland. In the end though it is a matter of choice, for us all.

im with jock on this one

[Highland Logan]

I rather think that many will agree with your friend, particularly from Scotland. In the end though it is a matter of choice, for us all.

I'm also on the "Jock-wagon".

Frank

[Panache]

This discussion has come up many times before and will undoubtedly come up many times again in the future.

It all boils down to semantics folks

Words originate and denote one thing

Over time their meanings can change

They can come to be more specific or broader in their scope

So the issue is that for some people a "kilt" is a Scottish word denoting a particular type of garment produced and worn in Scotland*

Other people see that the word "kilt" refers now to any masculine skirt for men (such as the Fustanella which is often described as a "white Greek kilt").

I personally use the terms "traditional Scottish kilt" and "Modern Kilt" when talking about them and consider both under the heading "kilt".

As someone who very much respects traditional highland attire and its conventions I have to say that I would find someone calling my Modern Kilts a "skirt" to be insulting. The implication is that I am cross dressing.

I certainly can understand someone like Scotus or Jock Scot not liking a Utilikilt, R-Kilt, Union Kilt, Alpha Kilt, Amerikilt, or other other non traditional modern kilt.

But they are masculine garments.

By the by, as a Mustang owner I understood Alex's comments.

Is a 6 Cylinder Mustang a sports car?

It depends on how broad your definition of Sports Car is?

The great thing about XMTS is that we have such a wonderful mix here of modern and traditionalist kilt wearers contributing to our forum.

Over the years I have been here I have seen many Modern kilt wearers learn to appreciate the the handsome style of traditional highland attire. I have also seen more than a few traditionalists give a Modern Kilt a try and they have found themselves enjoying the comfort and simplicity of this very different kind of kilt.

Wear whichever style (or both) that suits you best but always remember to show respect for those that have a different point of view.

Cheers

Jamie :ootd:






* Though even in this sense there is an issue of what type of kilt the person thinks of, is it a belted plaid? , a great kilt?, a 4 yard box pleated kilt?, a 8 yard knife pleated kilt? etc.

[Joseph McLaren]

As someone who very much respects traditional highland attire and its conventions I have to say that I would find someone calling my Modern Kilts a "skirt" to be insulting. The implication is that I am cross dressing.

[/I]

I have no problem acknowledging that the kilt is a type of skirt. A skirt for men, to be sure, but still a skirt. I always think to insist otherwise can be misconstrued as insecurity. If someone calls your kilt a skirt in order to insult you, you can disarm them by treating it as neutral observation.

[Monkey@Arms]

Well said, Jamie.


I'd hate to see us get into the whole: "what is a kilt" debate.



In response to the original OP's question, I would simply explain that now a days, there are a lot more choices than there were in the past.

I vote to lock this down before the flames erupt once more, and I am forced to slap people with a dead fish.




Best regards,

Jake

[Alan H]

I'd say that the man is entitled to his opinion. I am also entitled to disagree with him.

[duchessofnc]

I am a traditionalist. I am highly biased towards the traditional kilts and traditional Highland Attire. On the other hand, I think that the contemporary kilts such as the utilikilt is in fact a kilt. I know that I can spot someone in the crowd wearing a utilikilt or other contemporary kilt and go "Cool! He's wearing a kilt".

However, that's my two cents in on the matter.

[Alan H]

I vote to lock this down before the flames erupt once more, and I am forced to slap people with a dead fish.




Best regards,

Jake

That Monkey, he be smart dude.

[cavscout]

Aye, the courtesy of tolerance goes both ways.