Jacket ludite

**Detroitpete** · 18th June 09, 06:07 AM

Ok lads,

Would this jacket and vest be suitable for day wear or is it too formal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARGYLE-KILT-JACK...3A1%7C294%3A50

**JSFMACLJR** · 18th June 09, 06:15 AM

Well, it's suitable for the most formal of day time affairs...a wedding perhaps. During the day it is not accessorized with evening stuff. It is worn with a long four-in-hand necktie, and a regular white shirt. If you choose to wear a waistcoat, it is a five or six button one.

**McMurdo** · 18th June 09, 06:23 AM

You can get away with it, however, some people may think the only reason you are wearing it in the day time is because you do not have a Tweed Argyll. It really is for a semi formal setting, whereas the tweed argyll is more of a day wear option. Of course there is greater latitude given to the rules in North America than in Scotland as many on this side of the pond do not know the rules at all, most likely it would be fine. Take a look at the one kilt ten looks thread that Panache and I did notice the different jackets worn by both of us, and the descriptions.

**Detroitpete** · 18th June 09, 07:25 AM

McMurdo--How estute! Yep The only reason I would be getting this IS that I don't have a Tweed Argyll ;-)

I'm looking for something that can serve as business dress day wear, but be able to be turned up a notch for evening wear if necessary. I was hoping to find something in one jacket that would keep me from having to purchase 2 different garments.

I LOVE the post that you and Jamie put together for different looks with the same kilts, but most of my kilting is either at the Games as an athlete, pubs, relaxed dinners out and the occasional event wear a dress shirt is the extent of my formal attire.

There are many other occasions I attend that I'd like to wear a kilt instead of a shirt and tie or suit. Hence, my search for a "suit replacement" look to wear while kilted. Was thinking that perhaps those occasions where I might typically wear shirt and tie, a nice waistcoat with dress shirt and tie would look well kilted.

**Panache** · 18th June 09, 07:31 AM

DP,

Based on your criteria might I suggest instead of looking for a black Argyll you should set your sights on a charcoal grey tweed one with black buttons?

With a matching waistcoat you should fit in everywhere save full on Black tie and White tie events.

Cheers

Jamie :ootd:

**beloitpiper** · 18th June 09, 07:44 AM

Anything with silver buttons is a bit too formal for regular daywear.

**Detroitpete** · 18th June 09, 07:56 AM

Wow--this attempting to look like an upstanding gentleman is hard work! :-)

**Panache** · 18th June 09, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Detroitpete

Wow--this attempting to look like an upstanding gentleman is hard work! :-)

But it is worth it!

Now can I invite you to join a little group we have here on XMTS called "The Order of the Dandelion" ....

...wait a minute! You are already a member!

So you are on the right path

Cheers

Jamie :ootd:

**ghostlight** · 18th June 09, 08:34 AM

Glad you asked this question, Detroitpete. I've been wondering the same things myself and had also been looking as those jackets. While I love the look of black tie formal wear, reality is that I just don't have occasion to wear it. I'm looking for a suit replacement setup as well and learning all the ins-and-outs has been interesting.

I believe my inevitable jacket purchase will probably be a tweed Braemar as I really like that particular look.

Originally Posted by Detroitpete

Wow--this attempting to look like an upstanding gentleman is hard work! :-)

It's amazing how much we can learn here at X Marks, though. There are a lot of snappy dressers here with a lot of good advice.

I'm still working on the speak like an upstanding gentleman part as well. I think I'm down to only two curse words per spoken sentence (holding at none while I'm typing) and have finally worked out that some folks consider being called "sir" to be just as bad as me calling them late to dinner.

**Bugbear** · 18th June 09, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by beloitpiper

Anything with silver buttons is a bit too formal for regular daywear.

I suggest, for many reasons, having the tiny eyelets put in a jacket to make the buttons removable. I don't know if switching to black buttons would change the formality too much, but at least you could take your silver buttons off when you send the jacket to the drycleaners.

Just a thought. :ootd: