Similarities between Native American Pow-Wows and Highland Games

[Na Heilthirich]

Ummm, Highland Logan....not sure what context you mean it in when you ask when the Scots were conquered.... but if you're straight - Culloden would be one example...if Scots hadn't been conquered they'd not been prohibited from wearing the tartan etc.

Hi Riverkilt

I beg to differ. The Scots and / or Scotland is the only bit of the UK never to have been conquered, by the Romans, the Danes, the Normans, (all of whom conquered England) or the English themselves. Culloden is a poor example since there were more Scots on the Hanoverian side than on the Jacobite side. It would be erroneous to paint the 1745/6 rebellion as an ethnic / nationalist war. It had far more to do with whig and tory politics.

On the thread subject, James Hunter's "Glencoe and the Indians" is a fascinating read.

[Bigkahuna]

Certainly a fair and plausible line of thought, just as the British recruited the "martial races" of India, most notably the Sikhs and Gurkhas as colonial forces after the Mutiny of 1857.

T.

I think the Gurhhas and the Sikhs were already part of the British colonial forces when the mutiny occured. They were among the only Native troops to remain loyal to the British Crown. The First "Sirmoor Battalion" was raised in 1815.

[macwilkin]

I think the Gurhhas and the Sikhs were already part of the British colonial forces when the mutiny occured. They were among the only Native troops to remain loyal to the British Crown. The First "Sirmoor Battalion" was raised in 1815.

Yes indeed. My apologies for the confusion. Both the Sikhs and Gurkhas were enlisted in HM Forces after they both had fought the British in India before 1857.

T.

[Bigkahuna]

Just as a side note, some of the supposed "loyal" Native troops were assembled and formed square, then ordered to disarm with cannons loaded with grape shot surrounding them. Not a happy time in India. Sorry for the sidetrack.

[woodchuck2000]

what dos this have to do with pow wows and highland games?

[macwilkin]

what dos this have to do with pow wows and highland games?

A comparison was made between Native Americans, Highland Scots and the Indian martial races, such as the Gurkhas and Sikhs in terms of serving in the armed forces of your former enemy.

T.

[Bigkahuna]

I did say "sorry for the sidetrack". Thank you Todd for your explanation.

[Riverkilt]

Well, I'm nearly finished with Calloway's book. Seems to support similarities on nearly every page as well as point out differences. Great book.

Ron