Irish wore kilts?

[Highland Logan]

The Pakistani kiltmakers claim their families made kilts for the British in the Raj, and I find their claims plausible and have no reason to disbelieve them.

When and where have they (the Pakistani kiltmakers) made these claims? Is it on the internet? Do they mention this on their websites? You keep saying that they make these claims, but all we have is you making claims for them. Do you know these people, have they told you this in person, over the phone or through email?

Frank

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

The O’Dinan strikes again! (I think that was the name or “title” of the person who originally wrote the article started all of this nonsense.)

Certainly one hundred or more years of Irish nationalists wearing the kilt is considered long enough to be a tradition by some.

You'd be right, of course, if every Ard Feis was full to the brim with kilt wearing nationalists. But they aren't. Irish nationalists (except possibly in the three "counties" of Canada, USA, and Australia) DON'T WEAR KILTS. You would be hard pressed to find and name 100 Irish Nationalists (whatever that phrase may mean) who have worn the kilt as an expression of nationalism over the last 100 years.

Why?

Because the kilt isn't, and never has been, seen by the Irish as part of their Irish cultural tradition.

[McNulty]

Wow! This thread is a fine example of why I belong to this forum. This type of spirited discussion keeps me coming back for more and helps me understand my culture better through all of the information imparted (correct, surmised, and incorrect). I've read the thread with fascination and look forward to the continuation of my education. The give and take here is a pleasure to read.
Nulty

[Swampthing]

The only Irish I have ever seen wearing the kilt are either Ulster Scots (Scots-Irish, Northern Irish, etc.), or (U.S.) Americans* (particularly on St. Patrick's Day).



*Don't you just wish there was a better name to specify those from the U.S.A?

[Jock Scot]

The only Irish I have ever seen wearing the kilt are either Ulster Scots (Scots-Irish, Northern Irish, etc.), or (U.S.) Americans* (particularly on St. Patrick's Day).



*Don't you just wish there was a better name to specify those from the U.S.A?

There is a name that is used here in the UK as a collective noun to specify those from the USA. As youngsters we were told pretty firmly not to call the GI's it(we did though), and I am never sure if it causes offence or not, I don't think it does, although I can see a historical problem between certain states of the USA, perhaps you chaps from the USA could enlighten me? The word used, is the description of pulling sharply on a piece of rope. Yes? Got it? Of course you have!

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

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[MacMillan of Rathdown]

There is a name that is used here in the UK as a collective noun to specify those from the USA. As youngsters we were told pretty firmly not to call the GI's it(we did though), and I am never sure if it causes offence or not, I don't think it does, although I can see a historical problem between certain states of the USA, perhaps you chaps from the USA could enlighten me? The word used, is the description of pulling sharply on a piece of rope. Yes? Got it? Of course you have!

Jock, like so many words I think it is all down to tone of voice and context. My feeling is that only the objectionable would ever object.

[Splash_4]

Curious... I wonder why anyone would find that offensive? Didn't George M Cohan refer to American Soldiers in WWI as Yanks in the song "Over There"?

[Jock Scot]

Thanks chaps!

[ghostlight]

Curious... I wonder why anyone would find that offensive?

I really don't understand it, either. I'm aware of the various histories of the term. As Rathdown says, I suppose it's all down to tone of voice and context.