Ahhh Alan, so now you'll be 'coming in' at 13 feet? ;-) Since I blew out my right shoulder earlier this year I've had to switch to left hand for WOB. I'm throwing exactly the same as I was with my right. Some days I hi 13 like it was nothing, some days 14, but that's where I top out. UGH--taking your lessons and may have to hit the gym myself--or just hang more sheet rock on ceilings :-)