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28th June 09, 08:38 AM
#91
Of all the things I liked; the hose, the jackets, shirts, hats, etc...the Sporrans are incredible. That is an investment of $$$ Good Job Lads!
A proud Great-Great Grandson of the Clan MacLellan from Kirkcudbright.
"Think On!"
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6th July 09, 11:25 AM
#92
What a wonderful thread! This is so helpful and informative to a newbie such as myself - this is much appreciated.
Regards,
Moon
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11th July 09, 05:30 PM
#93
Huzzah!
Jamie and Glen, excellent post from esteemed members!! Guidance (and visuals) like this is much appreciated! And I do agree with our UK brethren (THE UK, not Utilikilt) that the flexibility afforded here helps greatly when you only own one or two kilts . . . Now I don't worry about showing up to kilt night in the same tartan!
If I show up in my SportKilt, however . . .
Of course, with temps well over 105 out here, maybe a light, simple "kilt" is the way to go . . .
BEAT ARMY
Devil Doc, USN
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19th July 09, 08:42 AM
#94
Be careful about wearing a red & hite dicing on a Glengarry. If you've never been in a Scottish regiment, sometimes it causes offence. No doubt allowances will be made if you have a foreign accent 
Cheers
Bruce
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19th July 09, 08:47 AM
#95
 Originally Posted by Tartan Shortbread Jock
Never wore a Pith helmet before, but it does set the outfits up.
I think he was taking the pith. I hope he was taking the pith.
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19th July 09, 08:50 AM
#96
 Originally Posted by Stratherrick
Be careful about wearing a red & hite dicing on a Glengarry. If you've never been in a Scottish regiment, sometimes it causes offence. No doubt allowances will be made if you have a foreign accent
Cheers
Bruce
I take it the missing letter was a "w"? I raised this once before as I understood that any headwear with such a diced band denoted allegiance to the Crown, hence its wearing by forces personnel.
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19th July 09, 09:06 AM
#97
 Originally Posted by Phil
I take it the missing letter was a "w"? I raised this once before as I understood that any headwear with such a diced band denoted allegiance to the Crown, hence its wearing by forces personnel.
I have been searching for a source for this long-standing myth regarding dicing for quite sometime now; ironically, historian Stuart Reid mentions that Stewart of Garth described the dicing on bonnets as symbolic of the "fesse-chequey" of Stewart Arms, so if this indeed the case, dicing originally was a Jacobite, and not a government symbol.
Reid does discount this theory and states his belief that dicing was really just a decoration that could have been tied into diced hose.
And finally, while some regiments did wear diced glengarries (the Royal Scots, KOSB, HLI/RSF, etc.), others did not. Like many other pieces of military custom and tradition, the origin of this chestnut may be lost to the mists of antiquity.
Regards,
Todd
Last edited by macwilkin; 19th July 09 at 09:11 AM.
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19th July 09, 09:27 AM
#98
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
I have been searching for a source for this long-standing myth regarding dicing for quite sometime now; ironically, historian Stuart Reid mentions that Stewart of Garth described the dicing on bonnets as symbolic of the "fesse-chequey" of Stewart Arms, so if this indeed the case, dicing originally was a Jacobite, and not a government symbol.
Reid does discount this theory and states his belief that dicing was really just a decoration that could have been tied into diced hose.Regards,Todd
Hi Todd,
I don't think the Stewart of Garth explanation will work. The fesse chequey of the Stewarts is Azure and Argent as opposed to the Gules and Argent of the dicing. As you know, heraldicly they would be two totally different arms.

When one thinks of Stewart arms it is always the Azure and Argent, not anything else. I have always thought that it is just decoration.
Regards
Chas
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19th July 09, 09:30 AM
#99
Aye, it was a missing "w", and me so pedantic, well, most of the time 
Whether it's an urban myth, I'm not sure either. The times when I have heard it brought up are in pubs and when I've been watching Scotland play international football matches. As regards the latter, some folks get away with it as they say that, for the day, they're in the Tartan Army!
I've never seen matters come to blows, but I have seen a few heated arguments. Maybe I'll write to the Scottish military to find out the sense and sensibilities of it all.
Cheers
Bruce
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19th July 09, 01:30 PM
#100
 Originally Posted by Chas
Hi Todd,
I don't think the Stewart of Garth explanation will work. The fesse chequey of the Stewarts is Azure and Argent as opposed to the Gules and Argent of the dicing. As you know, heraldicly they would be two totally different arms.
When one thinks of Stewart arms it is always the Azure and Argent, not anything else. I have always thought that it is just decoration.
Regards
Chas
Chas,
If you re-read my post, you'll see I stated that Reid dismisses the aforementioned theory of Stewart of Garth.
T.
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