A Definition of the Term, T R A D I T I O N A L

**Jock Scot** · 22nd July 09, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

For a long time I had trouble understanding the term casual because I was thinking of that as somewhere between a polo shirt to a button down shirt, and without a jacket. However, everything below formal and semi-formal was being called casual.

So... I'm guessing that jacket waistcoat and tie is the minimum requirement here?

Not far out Ted, but not quite! We would wear a pullover for perhaps(not always though!) fishing,shooting, BBQ or going for a major walk or, some very informal setting and we rarely get the weather for shirt sleeves! In your sort of weather I don't think even the most hardened traditionalist would demand tweed and a tie!

**dfmacliam** · 22nd July 09, 03:40 PM

Thanks Matt for that link.. I have that like of the solid kilts and after stumbling into that old post about "hard tartans" I have been thinking about a greenish tweed box pleat or 5 yard kilt for a "knockabout" of sorts. I am a fan of that straight cut vest with a shirt for that workman rugged look..the shirts I get for my Indian dances are the pull over, three button collarless, which reminds me of the offwhite- white grandfather shirts. I usually get both of these from the sutlers who provide clothing for the 1700's-1800's reenactors.

**Nighthawk** · 22nd July 09, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

Be careful Hawk, learning about traditional Highland attire is addictive.

They'll have you in a jabot, patent leather buckle shoes, and evening Argyle before long.

Jabot? No- too formal for me. Patent shoes? Too shiny.

I'm an understated, weathered tartan kind of guy.

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Not far out Ted, but not quite! We would wear a pullover for perhaps(not always though!) fishing,shooting, BBQ or going for a major walk or, some very informal setting and we rarely get the weather for shirt sleeves! In your sort of weather I don't think even the most hardened traditionalist would demand tweed and a tie!

Gods, I would hope not! I officiated a wedding in Pheonix a little over a year ago wearing a Prince Charlie and a PV kilt, and I thought I was going to die!!

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

Many farmers and crofters and fisher folk on the Isle of Mull, prior to 1800, worked naked so that they wouldn't soil their only suit of clothes.

I tried that once- my boss soiled himself.

**Bugbear** · 22nd July 09, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Not far out Ted, but not quite! We would wear a pullover for perhaps(not always though!) fishing,shooting, BBQ or going for a major walk or, some very informal setting and we rarely get the weather for shirt sleeves! In your sort of weather I don't think even the most hardened traditionalist would demand tweed and a tie!

It's OK, Jock; it's just that I had read JSFMACLJR post on what workers wore... But yes, most tweeds are probably a bit too heavy for the summers down here. We rely on giant, house size air conditioners to keep it cool enough to wear a tie.

I don't even think the polo shirts exist in this time frame; more like WWII...

**Rex_Tremende** · 22nd July 09, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

Many farmers and crofters and fisher folk on the Isle of Mull, prior to 1800, worked naked so that they wouldn't soil their only suit of clothes.

This tradition is apparently making a comeback.

Naked Fridays: Taking Casual All the Way
July 10, 2009 at 9:29 am by: John Phillips
In Newcastle upon Tyne, England, a company called onebestway is stretching the limits of the proverb that necessity is the mother of invention. With the company’s business tanking in these terrible economic times, the boss had an idea. Everyone should come to work naked on Fridays.

It’s working. It took some getting used to, but the employees like it. Business isn’t booming, but it’s better. By appreciating one’s own body and the bodies of coworkers, teamwork has taken on new meaning.

Oh, I know. This post will end up in the recycle bin any minute.

Regards,
Rex.