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27th July 09, 11:14 AM
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Marlow White is a military uniform company. In my army days Officers had to buy all our own uniforms and they were the place to go. In the awards area of their web site, they have a link to the different uniform regulation that is downloadable (pdf). I know that the Army has a section for civilian wear of awards that is quite useful. http://www.marlowwhite.com/
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27th July 09, 11:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by WARPIPER
Marlow White is a military uniform company. In my army days Officers had to buy all our own uniforms and they were the place to go. In the awards area of their web site, they have a link to the different uniform regulation that is downloadable (pdf). I know that the Army has a section for civilian wear of awards that is quite useful. http://www.marlowwhite.com/
See also: http://www.marlowwhite.com/army-awards-FAQ.html
T.
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27th July 09, 12:33 PM
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The applicable AR is mostly devoted to uniform wear. The brief civilian paragraph is quoted below:
30-6. Wear of medals on civilian clothes
Retired personnel and former members of the Army (as described above) may wear all categories of medals described in this regulation on appropriate civilian clothing. This includes clothes designed for veteran and patriotic organizations on Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day, as well as at formal occasions of ceremony and social functions of a military nature. Personnel may wear either full-size or miniature medals. Personnel who wear medals on civilian clothes should place the medals on the clothing in approximately the same location and in the same manner as for the Army uniform, so they look similar to medals worn on the Army uniform
I am not sure if "all categories of medals" includes ribbons or not. You see a lot of ribbons worn, but I'm not totally comfortable with it.
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27th July 09, 12:36 PM
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That's where you get into the technicalities of definition. All ribbons are a decoration of some sort, but not all ribbons are representative of medals. So, by strictest definition, a ribbon is not a medal and should not be worn on civilian clothes.
Yes, I know many people do it, but it's not within the reg.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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27th July 09, 01:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by davedove
That's where you get into the technicalities of definition. All ribbons are a decoration of some sort, but not all ribbons are representative of medals. So, by strictest definition, a ribbon is not a medal and should not be worn on civilian clothes.
Yes, I know many people do it, but it's not within the reg.
Absolutely correct!
Just to demystify things a bit, decorations are technically medals awarded for valor-- bronze star, etc. Most medals are awarded for achievement or proficiency. Ribbons, which do not have medals, are usually training awards.
Last edited by MacMillan of Rathdown; 27th July 09 at 01:39 PM.
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27th July 09, 01:39 PM
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More on military regulations
 Originally Posted by Ozark Ridge Rider
The applicable AR is mostly devoted to uniform wear. The brief civilian paragraph is quoted below:
30-6. Wear of medals on civilian clothes
Retired personnel and former members of the Army (as described above) may wear all categories of medals described in this regulation on appropriate civilian clothing. This includes clothes designed for veteran and patriotic organizations on Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day, as well as at formal occasions of ceremony and social functions of a military nature. Personnel may wear either full-size or miniature medals. (emphasis added-MoR)
Although this refers to the civilian "uniforms" worn by members of organizations such as the VFW or the American Legion, by extension it also can be applied to Highland attire.
 Originally Posted by Ozark Ridge Rider
Personnel who wear medals on civilian clothes should place the medals on the clothing in approximately the same location and in the same manner as for the Army uniform, so they look similar to medals worn on the Army uniform.
AR 670-1 goes into greater specific detail.
 Originally Posted by Ozark Ridge Rider
I am not sure if "all categories of medals" includes ribbons or not. You see a lot of ribbons worn, but I'm not totally comfortable with it.
Ribbons are not authorized for civilian wear, only full-size medals (day) and miniature-size medals (evening). You are probably not comfortable with the idea of wearing ribbons on civilian attire because it's wrong to do so.
The question has been raised (outside of this forum) if it is appropriate (or legal) to wear US military medals on the uniform of a civilian organization that discriminates against individuals seeking membership based on requirements of race, religion, or national origin. Although neither the US Justice Department nor the Department of Defense has addressed the issue I would think that there may be a case to be made for restricting the wearing of medals in some instances.
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