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29th July 09, 03:39 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
All right, you have convinced me. The box pleated kilt is not traditional, it is a modern, historical revival style of kilt.
Thanks Wizard.
Ted, In my rather traditionalist opinion it is the fabric and the tailoring that define the traditional kilt, rather than the pleating. I hope that completely confuses you! 
-Scott
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29th July 09, 04:47 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by DWFII
How about this?

Now THAT is a HAT!
Wherever did you lay hands on it?
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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29th July 09, 04:55 PM
#13
Not to be snippy but it's actually a highland blue bonnet. As for where I got it, my lovely lady made it for me. She knitted it and then felted it.
She also made the cockade...which, just between you and me, I would have preferred to be a little more Jacobite and a little less "French." But it's a labour of love all the way around and I'm not going to gainsay the cockade...I'll just have to invent a "backstory" to make it historically correct. Anyone got a ready backstory laying around that I can use?
DWFII--Traditionalist and Auld Crabbit
In the Highlands of Central Oregon
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29th July 09, 07:09 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by DWFII
Not to be snippy but it's actually a highland blue bonnet. As for where I got it, my lovely lady made it for me. She knitted it and then felted it.
She also made the cockade...which, just between you and me, I would have preferred to be a little more Jacobite and a little less "French." But it's a labour of love all the way around and I'm not going to gainsay the cockade...I'll just have to invent a "backstory" to make it historically correct. Anyone got a ready backstory laying around that I can use?
How about "it was my communion ribbon...?"
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29th July 09, 07:23 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Ted, In my rather traditionalist opinion it is the fabric and the tailoring that define the traditional kilt, rather than the pleating. I hope that completely confuses you! 
-Scott
All right then, it is both a traditional kilt and a modern, historical revival style kilt, but only when being worn with a sporran, where the sporran is located in the front and center.
Guess that makes sense...
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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29th July 09, 07:29 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by DWFII
Not to be snippy but it's actually a highland blue bonnet. As for where I got it, my lovely lady made it for me. She knitted it and then felted it.
She also made the cockade...which, just between you and me, I would have preferred to be a little more Jacobite and a little less "French." But it's a labour of love all the way around and I'm not going to gainsay the cockade...I'll just have to invent a "backstory" to make it historically correct. Anyone got a ready backstory laying around that I can use?
Sure. You were fighting three Frenchmen and while pinned down, you attempted to bite off the ear of one of the Frenchmen, but bit off the cockade instead. They were laughing at you so hard that you were able to escape with the cockade of course.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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29th July 09, 07:49 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by DWFII
Not to be snippy but it's actually a highland blue bonnet. As for where I got it, my lovely lady made it for me. She knitted it and then felted it.
She also made the cockade...which, just between you and me, I would have preferred to be a little more Jacobite and a little less "French." But it's a labour of love all the way around and I'm not going to gainsay the cockade...I'll just have to invent a "backstory" to make it historically correct. Anyone got a ready backstory laying around that I can use?
"My lovely wife made it for me"
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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29th July 09, 08:31 PM
#18
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
How about "it was my communion ribbon...?" 
This seems like such an odd suggestion, I am guessing there's more to it? Why a communion ribbon? I never heard of such a thing.
DWFII--Traditionalist and Auld Crabbit
In the Highlands of Central Oregon
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30th July 09, 03:44 PM
#19
It's an Irish thing...
 Originally Posted by DWFII
This seems like such an odd suggestion, I am guessing there's more to it? Why a communion ribbon? I never heard of such a thing.
In Ireland when the lad's go up for first communion they wear a similar rosette pinned to their jacket. Don't ask me why, because in all the years I lived there, and in all of the first communions I attended, I never thought to ask why it was done. For all I know it may be done here (USofA), but at home (Ireland) when I was out campaigning for FF, any number of people (Lucy, my housekeeper, included) would point at the rosette on my jacket and make wise cracks like "My but aren't you a big lad for taking your first communion, now."
And in the 1860s the knife-pleated kilt first made it appearance, worn by the Gordon Highlanders. (I thought I'd better add that last bit to get this back on the "Historical Highland Attire" topic!)
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