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16th August 09, 07:59 PM
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Not to dissuade you from wearing whatever you want, but....
The lists of septs, or surnames associated with a clan, are notoriously inaccurate and full of fantasy.
When we do genealogical research, we ALWAYS start with the most recent person, oneself and one's parents, then work our way backward, rather than picking some one in the distant path, then deciding to be descended from them, and trying to work our way forward and claim som relatinship. Likely one isn't related.
There are only two ways to discover ancestry. One is tracing the paper trail backward in time, documenting one generation before moving on the the previous one. The other, which is new and sometimes but not always helpful, is DNA testing. You might find the FAQ at www.familytreedna.com informative.
The problem with just picking a clan from a list and deciding to be descended from them is not so much that one is usually mistaken, but that it can lead others to repeat the same mistake, and that it gets passed on and on. A relative of mine did just that, and now one misinformed nephew has an expensive kilt in a clan that we have no association with, while another had the clan crest tattooed across his back. And neither are all that interested in correcting the misinformation, since it has gotten under their skin, so to speak.
Since you ask, I would say the proper form when asked one's lineage is to simply speak the unadorned truth: "My surname is Stiverson, and I don't know what my lineage is." There is nothing at all wrong with not knowing.
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17th August 09, 01:56 AM
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Very sound advice.
Prior to my first starting to conduct genealogical research of my family, we were under the impression that we were some how connected to the Gordons. A cousin of mine also went to the trouble of buying said kilt & getting said tattoo (despite my telling them I wasn't so sure about the truth of it). As it turned out I found no connection to the Gordons, but to a number of other clans. To this day though, my cousins & aunt don't want to believe the truth, all because he jumped the gun 
The moral of the story, listen to Gilmore on this. You'll save yourself a lot of $$$ & headaches. It might take longer to verify where you came from, but the rewards are worth it in the long run! 
 Originally Posted by gilmore
When we do genealogical research, we ALWAYS start with the most recent person, oneself and one's parents, then work our way backward, rather than picking some one in the distant path, then deciding to be descended from them, and trying to work our way forward and claim som relatinship. Likely one isn't related.
There are only two ways to discover ancestry. One is tracing the paper trail backward in time, documenting one generation before moving on the the previous one. The other, which is new and sometimes but not always helpful, is DNA testing. You might find the FAQ at www.familytreedna.com informative.
The problem with just picking a clan from a list and deciding to be descended from them is not so much that one is usually mistaken, but that it can lead others to repeat the same mistake, and that it gets passed on and on. A relative of mine did just that, and now one misinformed nephew has an expensive kilt in a clan that we have no association with, while another had the clan crest tattooed across his back. And neither are all that interested in correcting the misinformation, since it has gotten under their skin, so to speak.
Since you ask, I would say the proper form when asked one's lineage is to simply speak the unadorned truth: "My surname is Stiverson, and I don't know what my lineage is." There is nothing at all wrong with not knowing.
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