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19th August 09, 06:13 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Jock,
Believe it or not, there are some of Yanks that already knew about the regimental/club tie.  I frequently wear the tie of an organization I belong to, the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the USA, with my Highland attire, as one of my Scottish ancestors was an officer in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War.
I also have a tie for the Society of King Charles the Martyr and the Order of St. Vincent, two Anglican organizations I belong to.
I prefer the rosette to the metal lapel badge as a way to denote membership in a club/organization:
http://www.dexterrosettes.com/
Regards,
Todd
Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.
Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rosette hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.
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19th August 09, 06:19 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.
Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rostte hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.
Jock,
Apologies for my attempt at humour that failed. 
I've seen a number of lapel badges from organisations in the UK; the C. of E. Verger's Guild, for example, offers one for its members. (Whether it is worn of course is another story!)
The rosette originated in France from the larger ones worn on medals, such as the Legion of Honour. MOLLUS, according to tradition, was the first US society to adopt one in the 1870s. I have seen a picture of President Benjamin Harrison, an ex-Union Army officer, wearing one during his Presidency.
T.
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19th August 09, 06:34 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Jock,
Apologies for my attempt at humour that failed.
I've seen a number of lapel badges from organisations in the UK; the C. of E. Verger's Guild, for example, offers one for its members. (Whether it is worn of course is another story!)
The rosette originated in France from the larger ones worn on medals, such as the Legion of Honour. MOLLUS, according to tradition, was the first US society to adopt one in the 1870s. I have seen a picture of President Benjamin Harrison, an ex-Union Army officer, wearing one during his Presidency.
T.
Oh come on Todd! Your humour was noted ,hence the smiley at the end of the sentance.
I don't venture into religeous circles,if I can help it,so I know nothing about the Guild of Vergers. The British Legion is the only lapel badge that I can think of at the moment.
I know a bit about the Legion d'Honneur as I have seen a discreet ribbon worn in one of my French relative's lapel botton hole.
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19th August 09, 06:39 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Oh come on Todd! Your humour was noted ,hence the smiley  at the end of the sentance.
I don't venture into religeous circles,if I can help it,so I know nothing about the Guild of Vergers. The British Legion is the only lapel badge that I can think of at the moment.
I know a bit about the Legion d'Honneur as I have seen a discreet ribbon worn in one of my French relative's lapel botton hole.
And hence my , Jock.
I figured you might know something about the Legion d'Honneur. 
T.
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19th August 09, 06:37 AM
#5
I have a quick question. I was told (particualarly by my wife) that stripes and plaid never go together. Now I know it is a TARTAN that we wear, but it is called plaid to many. Is that a problem at all?
I saw the picture earlier in the thread of someone wearing one and I thought it looked great. I wonder if I could fine one for my university.
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19th August 09, 06:40 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by bricekolob
I have a quick question. I was told (particualarly by my wife) that stripes and plaid never go together. Now I know it is a TARTAN that we wear, but it is called plaid to many. Is that a problem at all?
I saw the picture earlier in the thread of someone wearing one and I thought it looked great. I wonder if I could fine one for my university.
Contact your alumni association or the bookstore. Unfortunately, many colleges and universities, while having ties, provide them in cheap versions. You might also check with Ben Silver in Charleston, SC, as they carry a number of university ties and cufflinks.
T.
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19th August 09, 07:52 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
You might also check with Ben Silver in Charleston, SC, as they carry a number of university ties and cufflinks.
T.
Ben Silver is probably the mother lode of this class of tie, for US residents! Their home store is a dangerous place to visit but the sales folk have excellent fashion sense. I own exactly one of their ties, purchased long, long ago for what seemed at the time a high price.
They also have a nice Scots lion, Welsh dragon, and what may be my downfall, the palmetto and crescent moon (or gorget if you prefer) symbolic of my home state.
Otherwise, just keep an eye out for striped ties in school (or other appropriate) colors.
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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19th August 09, 08:29 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by fluter
Ben Silver is probably the mother lode of this class of tie, for US residents! Their home store is a dangerous place to visit  but the sales folk have excellent fashion sense. I own exactly one of their ties, purchased long, long ago for what seemed at the time a high price.
They also have a nice Scots lion, Welsh dragon, and what may be my downfall, the palmetto and crescent moon (or gorget if you prefer) symbolic of my home state.
Otherwise, just keep an eye out for striped ties in school (or other appropriate) colors.
Yes indeed, Ben Silver is dangerous to a gentleman's pocketbook for a myriad of reasons! :mrgreen:
I know several of their ties, and they are some of the best ties I own -- besides my aforementioned society/club ties, I also own one of their Churchill polka dot ties.
T.
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19th August 09, 06:57 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by bricekolob
I have a quick question. I was told (particualarly by my wife) that stripes and plaid never go together. Now I know it is a TARTAN that we wear, but it is called plaid to many. Is that a problem at all?
I saw the picture earlier in the thread of someone wearing one and I thought it looked great. I wonder if I could fine one for my university.
Striped ties and tartans are regularly worn in Scotland, mainly by the older generation I grant you. Look at the Prince Charles picture thread -----find a picture of, er well, Jock Scot,------have a look at Mael Culuim's ongoing thread in Scotland, I know there is at least one Guards tie and most certainly a Black Watch tie on show. plenty of stripes and tartan to look at.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 19th August 09 at 07:04 AM.
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19th August 09, 06:47 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.
Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rosette hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.
We use the lapel pin in the US. Here is a picture of my university pin.

It has recently become so much of a tradition that before our most recent election our current president was incessantly ridiculed for not wearing a lapel pin with our flag on it.
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