Today at the Museum

[Highlander31]

Any chance the tartan could be Logan related?

The STA has several Logan tartans listed. The closest I could find to Ali's description was the tartan marked Logan (Clan.) Its alternative name was MacLennan, Logan. Dated 1831. ITI number 490. There was also a cross reference to MacNeill. ITI number 1429, dated pre 1880.

I put pasted both ITI numbers below.
Logan ITI 490


MacLennan, Logan ITI 1429

[ChubRock]

I'd say that I am not the only one that was excited to see Ali post. I did a quick google on Utah Pioneer museums to find a couple that had a decent online presence. However, none showed a kilt in their inventory.

Kilt On Sister!

[ali8780]

I'd say that I am not the only one that was excited to see Ali post. I did a quick google on Utah Pioneer museums to find a couple that had a decent online presence. However, none showed a kilt in their inventory.

Kilt On Sister!

Why thank you! This museum is a quaint little museum, so I'm not surprised you didn't find a website for it

My knowledge of Scottish heritage as it pertains to the settlement of Utah is dismal--I really should read up about it! Thanks Gary for all the information

[Highlander31]

Why thank you! This museum is a quaint little museum, so I'm not surprised you didn't find a website for it

My knowledge of Scottish heritage as it pertains to the settlement of Utah is dismal--I really should read up about it! Thanks Gary for all the information

Your welcome.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

You say the owner's name was Neilson -- the colors you describe in the kilt could be the MacNeil tartan. Why not snap a picture next time you are there (if they allow photography) and post it. I bet I, or someone on the forum, might be able to ID it.

Or not... I was recently in the Charleston museum and saw two tartan items -- a child's kilt and a man's vest -- both in tartans never before identified. I was able to make a reasonable guess as to the thread counts and both tartans are now recorded with the Scottish Tartans Authority.

[ali8780]

You say the owner's name was Neilson -- the colors you describe in the kilt could be the MacNeil tartan. Why not snap a picture next time you are there (if they allow photography) and post it. I bet I, or someone on the forum, might be able to ID it.

I will for sure, I'm pretty confident that they will let me get a picture, and then we can have fun nailing down a tartan (hopefully).

And by the way, is there something wrong with me--I can't tell the difference between the two tartans above posted by Gary, other than the pattern starting in a different place...

[Highlander31]

...And by the way, is there something wrong with me--I can't tell the difference between the two tartans above posted by Gary, other than the pattern starting in a different place...

They appear to be the same tartan to me. I posted both to illustrate how the cross reference of the tartans under multiple names can cause some confusion to those of us who are not as experienced in the intricacies of the tartans as someone like Matt would be (I looked at both tartans several times before concluding they were the same.) My apologies for not explaining my thoughts more clearly.

[ali8780]

They appear to be the same tartan to me. I posted both to illustrate how the cross reference of the tartans under multiple names can cause some confusion to those of us who are not as experienced in the intricacies of the tartans as someone like Matt would be (I looked at both tartans several times before concluding they were the same.) My apologies for not explaining my thoughts more clearly.

no apologies necessary! but thanks for the clarification

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Yes, both tartans are the same -- the same tartan goes under the name Logan and MacLennan, so it is in the ITI under each of those names, hence the two different ITI numbers.

[okiwen]

A kilt in Utah in 1865... that's pretty far west by 1865 standards.

Nope. My family was there before 1845. Tooele and Clover to be exact.