A new Boy Scout in Kilt

[Ancienne Alliance]

Good on the young lad for standing up for his right to wear what he chooses, regardless of the peer pressure from the other young lads in the group! The parents should show a better understanding of his feelings! And as for you, KILT ON ME FRIEND!

Hear, Hear !

[muirkirkca]

Recall a scout leader years ago in Toronto suburb wearing a kilt with khaki shirt out for a hike with the pack.
Try an inter-net search on "boy scout kilt" and Stillwater site should show some pictures of scout leaders wearing the MacLaren tartan. There is also a Scottish Scout tartan.

[Chas]

The Scottish Scout Tartan:


The information held within The Scottish Register of Tartans for the "Scottish Scouts (1922)" tartan is shown below.

STA ref: 1294
STWR ref: 1294
Designer: Glentanar, Lord
Tartan date: 01/01/1922
Registration date: This tartan was recorded prior to the launch of The Scottish Register of Tartans.
Category: Corporate

Restrictions: None

Registration notes: This count was taken from a kilt bought from the Scottish Scout Shop in Edinburgh in 1922. Designed by Chief Commissioner of the Scout Association of Scotland, Lord Glentanar who was George Coats of Paisley thread-making fame. It was for the use of Scouts having no tartan of their own or for Scout troops requiring a uniform tartan. Black Watch in three shades of grey. It didn't achieve great popularity. In 1989 a variation in which light grey changed to white was being marketed as 'Dress Grey Watch'.



Who knows what this would cost to produce today. It is also debatable as to whether the boys would like it - it is rather bland.

Regards

Chas

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Good on the young lad for standing up for his right to wear what he chooses, regardless of the peer pressure from the other young lads in the group!

Actually, unless you know something the rest of don't, there is no mention of "peer pressure" in the original post, or anywhere else that I can find. What was discussed was the appropriateness of showing up at a Scout meeting in Arizona in a kilt-- something that is fine and dandy back home in Scotland, where the kilt is part of the authorized Boy Scout uniform, but is as out of place as a dashiki or turban would be when worn with the Boy Scouts of America uniform in the United States.

The parents should show a better understanding of his feelings!

Actually, the parents of the boy should show a better understanding of the reason and purpose of the Scout uniform and try to instill a degree of respect and discipline in their child by insisting that he conform to the group norm.

Children (and some adults) have to learn that it's not always just about "me". That's one of the things Scouting teaches boys, and one of the ways that it teaches that lesson is by having the boys all wearing the same uniform.

[Ozman1944]

WOW! The Uniform Police sure make the Kilt Police seem like pussycats.....

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

It's not about "the uniform police". It's about the "place of the uniform".

[macwilkin]

WOW! The Uniform Police sure make the Kilt Police seem like pussycats.....

It's not about "the uniform police". It's about the "place of the uniform".

I tend to agree with Rathdown on this particular issue. In the case of the Boy Scouts, it is about the uniform in terms of creating esprit de corps, no matter how much in the BSA want to deny the Scouts' military roots with Lord B-P.

When I worked in the park service, I noticed that the boy/cub scout troops that followed the uniform regs more closely did have more "unit cohesion" than those that didn't. The Sea Cadets I worked with were even better. I certainly understand the need to be flexible given incomes and the current state of the economy, though.

Regards,

Todd

[Highland Logan]

It's not about "the uniform police". It's about the "place of the uniform".

Well said.

WOW! The Uniform Police sure make the Kilt Police seem like pussycats.....

So I ask you, what is the point of a uniform, you no one plans to wear it correctly, or incourage others to wear it how they please? That being the case why join any group that requires you to conform! We have far to many selfish adults in the world now, why train more children to replace them.

Frank

[Tony]

, but is as out of place as a dashiki or turban would be when worn with the Boy Scouts of America uniform in the United States. Actually, the parents of the boy should show a better understanding of the reason and purpose of the Scout uniform and try to instill a degree of respect and discipline in their child by insisting that he conform to the group norm.

Sikhs are barred from Boy Scouts?
who knew?

[Splash_4]

Let's be careful guys... The thread is quite informative, let's not blow it by getting carried away by taking it off topic or to the point of personal attack.