Saffron kilt showdown

[O'Callaghan]

Haven't found anything that you would call a primary source. However, I did find one reference to a regiment called the Royal Tyrone Fusiliers being founded in 1859 and having pipers. Never heard of them, but I wonder if they might have been amalgamated with the Enniskillen Fusiliers at some point? Mergers between regiments are nothing new, and a regiment will understandably tend to trace it's history back to the oldest regiment that was amalgamated to form it, sometimes without even mentioning that they had another name.

The designation "Royal" in front of regimental names was certainly not automatic, but I think more likely earnt in battle, and always maintained in mergers between regiments, whatever the new name. So, for example, a statement that the Royal Enniskillen Fusiliers was founded in 1881 can't necessarily be read as saying that the Enniskillen Fusiliers were founded that year as you might think, and may even indicate that it was amalgmated that year with one or more other regiments, and that at least one of them was "Royal". ETA: In fact any statement that an entirely new regiment was formed and that it was "Royal" is automatically suspect, and far more likely to refer to an amalgamation of two or more old ones.

I'll leave the historians to look for the primary sources, while I just surf the web for the usual inaccurate information, LOL!

ETA: The wool 'heavyweight' SWK in saffron is 'shadow tartan', as are the green and the black in that style, but the acryllic 'standard' that I have is a true solid saffron kilt

[dfmacliam]

I have a brand new Saffron kilt, I have to get pictures taken, while wearing.. A 16 oz MM Jura, in a 4 yd box pleat.. I am very happy with it, and made by slohairt and his Keltoi Gaelic Clothing

[dfmacliam]

Cajonscot, I look foreward to finding out about your friends reference of the print of the kilted Irish Piper that I linked on a previous thread. He is from St Louis, and you said you knew him and would ask about the print.. Please keep us posted on your findings.. Because I am interested. Thanks!

[fluter]

ETA: The wool 'heavyweight' SWK in saffron is 'shadow tartan', as are the green and the black in that style, but the acryllic 'standard' that I have is a true solid saffron kilt

southern-pride, please do note that SWK has a standard, acrylic saffron; and a heavyweight, wool saffron. I'm not sure which of our colleagues is wearing which. I think that Greg's may be the wool??

I gather that you have a wool kilt being tailored, so the acrylic may be a good choice. Then again, the wool is only about half again as much as the SWK standard---both are excellent value, so it's hard to go wrong.


The wool "shadow tartan" is woven with a pattern in the cloth (see the Web site), which only shows up at certain lighting angles. The acrylic is a plain colored twill, a tad darker than the wool if I recall correctly.

P.S. comparison with pix here