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20th October 09, 09:26 AM
#11
Probably because it carries through the theme of the tartan, and makes it look like a single piece of work. That and the fact that it's cool.
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20th October 09, 09:46 AM
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The original post asked for pictures. I don't own a tartan doublet, but I do own two tartan waistcoats, and I'm happy to provide pictures of these, if they will help give some indication of what tartan on the torso looks like. No doubt others will cime in soon with images of tartan doublets.
Both of my tartan waistcoats are cut on the bias. Here's an example of one cut straight (worn here with a red velvet Sherrifmuir doublet).
I think the straight cut works here, but my personal preference is on the bias.
I also think the advice about mixing tartans is worth listening to, but understand it is more advise than "rules." I think the safest thing to do is, of course, make sure your tartans match. This is always going to look well put together. But do they have to? Can you wear different tartans? Well, sure, but you run the risk of doing it poorly. It takes a certain eye to choose tartans that work together, and dare I say it takes a certain personality type to pull it off.
Ruari Halford-MacLeod, president of the Clan MacLeod Society in Scotland, told me he once wore an evening outfit that had five different MacLeod tartans in it! Knowing him, I'm sure he pulled it off well. However, would I advise the general public to wear five tartans at once? No.
Here is a picture of took of retired kilt maker, and kilt historian Bob Martin at a Highland Games a couple of years back (he's on the left).
Bob is wearing a kilt in his personal tartan (R. W.'s fancy), a waistcoat in Campbell (his clan), cut striaght, a plaid in the Martin tartan, which he designed some years back, and cadadh in a muted Macrae (his wife's clan tartan). Part of the reason why I think mixing tartans like this works for him is because he's wearing a more or less historical outfit and Highlanders in history did often wear multiple tartans together. I also think it works because of who he is. Anyone who knows him wouldn't be surprised in the least to see him in such an outfit.
But again, would I advise anyone -- especially someone just starting out in Highland dress -- to mix and match tartans willy nilly? Of course not. Wearing one tartan and having all elements match is the safest way to go (fashionably speaking), and I would say deviate from that only when you know what you are doing.
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20th October 09, 10:46 AM
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Well, time for me to step in and say that I have a tartan doublet, cut on the bias, and I love it! You don't see too many of them on this side of the pond--and not too many in Scotland, either. They are, though, quite popular in certain "sets" especially in the West Highlands and Isles.
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20th October 09, 10:58 AM
#14
Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
Well, time for me to step in and say that I have a tartan doublet, cut on the bias, and I love it! You don't see too many of them on this side of the pond--and not too many in Scotland, either. They are, though, quite popular in certain "sets" especially in the West Highlands and Isles.
Very smart but as you say not often seen nowadays. It is important not to mix tartans although you can vary the sett size and whether it is ancient, weathered etc..
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20th October 09, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Probably because it carries through the theme of the tartan, and makes it look like a single piece of work. That and the fact that it's cool.
Ya, it just didn't seem quite right when I imagined solid color hose with the tartan doublet. I like the Argyle or tartan hose anyway.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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20th October 09, 11:02 AM
#16
Here is a pic of Mr. Eph MacLean, the same gentleman whom Matt pictured wearing his red doublet. This time in a full tartan outfit.
On the left is our own Cawdorian. This was taken at a Kirkin' of the Tartans two years ago.
Convener, Georgia Chapter, House of Gordon (Boss H.O.G.)
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20th October 09, 11:04 AM
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Another view:
Note how well matched the velvet facings are in colour to the green in the kilt.
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20th October 09, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by turpin
Here is a pic of Mr. Eph MacLean, the same gentleman whom Matt pictured wearing his red doublet. This time in a full tartan outfit.
On the left is our own Cawdorian. This was taken at a Kirkin' of the Tartans two years ago.
Interesting that it is two MacLeans who have tartan doublets! Dr. MacLean does look splendid in his.
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20th October 09, 12:26 PM
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Thanks, all, for the pics. I had seen a doublet similar to JSFMACLJR's on a website, but it did not look nearly as good on a mannequin as it does on a living, drinking Scot. I am impressed also by Dr. McLean's- it looks like a Regulation to my untutored eye. In keeping with Matt's sage advice, I believe the best way to wear more than one tartan at a time, might be to wear ones that have the same colors, save one- such as tartans based on "Campbell Plus". For now, I will watch and learn.
SPLENDID , indeed.
Yr Humble, &c.
MacLowlife
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20th October 09, 07:55 PM
#20
Originally Posted by MacLowlife
Thanks, all, for the pics. I had seen a doublet similar to JSFMACLJR's on a website, ...
If you were looking at highlandclans.co.uk --- that IS JSFMACLJR's doublet.
Last edited by fluter; 21st October 09 at 06:22 AM.
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