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                                                21st October 09, 04:05 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Many things that are classified as not weapons will still be seen as such according to circumstances.
 Quoting Black Watch regs to airport security is alas unlikely to prevent confiscation.
 [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
 Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
 (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st October 09, 04:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Although that might just make for a spectator sport...
 After all: we're talking about the group that felt the Congressional Medal of Honor was a "dangerous item"...
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 09, 05:30 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I think you're right Trefor. Not worth the effort! Though I did manage to convince US TSA folk that a kilt pit was not dangerous. It stayed on the kilt on the plane.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by McClef   Quoting Black Watch regs to airport security is alas unlikely to prevent confiscation.
 Andy in Ithaca, NYExile from Northumberland
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 09, 11:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I don't even risk a kilt pin even though I know some airports are happy with it!
 But I have said this before - when I flew from Cardiff to Barcelona last year my sgian, was unknown to me, in my Argyll Jacket pocket and I put the jacket through the scanner at Cardiff and then wore it on the plane.  It was only when I got to Barcelona that I realised!
 
 With low cost airlines like Ryannair encouraging people to travel with only hand luggage (or paying a hefty supplement for hold luggage) maybe this needs to be resolved so that there is a universal standard approach.
 [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
 Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
 (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 09, 05:49 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Trefor, I agree. It all seems a bit arbitrary. I bet on another occasion with a different official the kilt pin would have been confiscated. To be honest, I had forgotten about it until it was pointed out—like you sgian!
				 Andy in Ithaca, NYExile from Northumberland
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd October 09, 05:05 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It would be a simple enough operation to be able to hand sgians and kilt pins over to airline crew for secure safe keeping during the flight one would think.
				 [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
 Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
 (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd October 09, 05:27 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Isn't that the policy now?  I have bussed and driven and trained for so many years - I really don't know what the procedure is.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by McClef   It would be a simple enough operation to be able to hand sgians and kilt pins over to airline crew for secure safe keeping during the flight one would think. 
 Do they confiscate sgians and pins and then not return them after the journey?  What if the knife or pin or whatever had a special value?  I always carry a Swiss Army Knife.  It was the first present my wife ever gave me.  It is now old and battered, but I would be devastated if it were ever lost or worse, taken away from me.
 
 Can a frequent flier, please post the current procedure.
 
 Regards
 
 Chas
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd October 09, 05:37 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	In the US, that is correct.  If anything is lifted at the security checkpoint, it is tossed in a bin along with a huge pile of other knives, scissors, nail clippers... never to be seen again.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Chas   Do they confiscate sgians and pins and then not return them after the journey? 
 Knives???  Come over to the knitting fora & you can join a perennial discussion about having your knitting needles confiscated.  The US TSA permits them "officially," but also "officially" states that the whim of the security officer is law.
 
 "Sorry, mum, but we're deathly afraid you may garrotte someone with that circular knitting needle."
 Ken Sallenger -  apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,gainfully unemployed systems programmer
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd October 09, 06:58 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	The reason I am asking is that my wife and I want to visit Venice.  We could drive, but would spend more time travelling than we would being there.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by fluter   In the US, that is correct.  If anything is lifted at the security checkpoint, it is tossed in a bin along with a huge pile of other knives, scissors, nail clippers... never to be seen again.
 Knives???  Come over to the knitting fora & you can join a perennial discussion about having your knitting needles confiscated.  The US TSA permits them "officially," but also "officially" states that the whim of the security officer is law.
 
 "Sorry, mum, but we're deathly afraid you may garrotte someone with that circular knitting needle."
 
 So all the contraband should go in the hold and not in hand luggage?  Or would that get confiscated too?
 
 Regards
 
 Chas
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd October 09, 09:22 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					You should have no problems with anything in your checked baggage. I regularly fly all around Europe and North America, and have never had a problem with the stuff in my luggage, and that includes traveling with shotguns on my way to a shoot.
				 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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