Difficulty of Matriculating Arms?

[JSFMACLJR]

I am an armiger, bearing arms granted by Lord Lyon. I inherited them upon the death of my father. He matriculated his arms from those granted to his forebearer.

The process was a wonderful learning process that took place over a roughly 4 0r 5 year period. We petitioned Lord Lyon for a grant of arms to my g-g-g grandfather, Donald McLean, who was born in Scotland and emigrated to Canada in 129. My father then petitioned for a matriculation of those arms in his own name, as a male descendant of Donald.

The Court of the Lord Lyon requires very extensive proofs. You cannot just say that your ancestor was Scottish born and you are the third son of a fourth son of a second son of a Scot. You must produce the documents, so that there is absolutely no doubt who you are, who the ancestor was, and that he fell within the jurisdiction of Lord Lyon. You must, if you are petitioning in memory of an anscestor, have the same surname as that person.

I suggest that you read all of the information available on three websites, so that you are familiar with the whole process. As a member of the Heraldry Society of Scotland and the Society of Scottish Armigers, I would be delighted to assist in any way.

Regards,
Sandford

Sites of note:
http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/l...&p_applic=CCC&

http://www.scotarmigers.net/

http://www.heraldry-scotland.co.uk/index.htm

[davidlpope]

Sandford,

Thanks. This is exactly the sort of first-hand information I was hoping for. I appreciate the resource links.

David

[Jack Daw]

I am an armiger, bearing arms granted by Lord Lyon. I inherited them upon the death of my father. He matriculated his arms from those granted to his forebearer...We petitioned Lord Lyon for a grant of arms to my g-g-g grandfather, Donald McLean, who was born in Scotland...My father then petitioned for a matriculation of those arms in his own name, as a male descendant of Donald...You must, if you are petitioning in memory of an anscestor, have the same surname as that person.

Regards,
Sandford

All your information is spot on with the LL's webby that I had read previously. Unfortunately, I was unaware that my last name had to match for whom I'm petitioning. I was going to petition for one of my Scottish great-grandfathers, but we do not share the same last name. I will need to work further on my surname genealogy a bit more before I can start that process, I suppose. Ho-hum. Thanks for sparing me wasted effort.

[macwilkin]

All your information is spot on with the LL's webby that I had read previously. Unfortunately, I was unaware that my last name had to match for whom I'm petitioning. I was going to petition for one of my Scottish great-grandfathers, but we do not share the same last name. I will need to work further on my surname genealogy a bit more before I can start that process, I suppose. Ho-hum. Thanks for sparing me wasted effort.

At one time, residents of former Spanish colonial possessions, such as Texas, could register arms with the Spanish Cronista Rey de Armas in Madrid. Since the passing of Don Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent in 2005, I am not sure as to what the current policy is towards the registering of foreign arms in Spain.

Note that registering arms is not the same as a grant of arms.

T.