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2nd November 09, 11:36 AM
#21
Great examples Rex and some sage advice Jock Scot. If I could boil it down to two words they would be - casual indifference.
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2nd November 09, 11:39 AM
#22
A question for Jock Scot - Would you recommend a true Regimental tie to a yank from across the pond knowing he may well visit the British Isles, or would you recommend a regimental- like tie?
Thanks.
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2nd November 09, 12:15 PM
#23
 Originally Posted by pdcorlis
A question for Jock Scot - Would you recommend a true Regimental tie to a yank from across the pond knowing he may well visit the British Isles, or would you recommend a regimental- like tie?
Thanks.
If you are talking about British regiments and their ties, I feel very strongly that only those that served in a particular unit should wear the regimental tie. I, and dare I say it, all members of the British services would think the same. At an educated guess I should imagine people who have served in the services of Commonwealth countries would also think the same.If you did not serve in that particular unit it would be very unwise to wear the tie.
As a favour to us in the UK can I ask you chaps in the USA(unless you served in the regiment in question) not to wear our regimental ties, they mean a lot to us.Tartan is one thing, Regimental ties are another matter entirely!
There are many regimental, club, etc., type/style ties that have no connection to anything,I would suggest they would be a safer bet. Of course there are American University, etc., ties available, I know, and I think the US Marine Corps has one too. Didn't we talk about an Xmarks club tie at one time?
Last edited by Jock Scot; 2nd November 09 at 12:27 PM.
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2nd November 09, 12:29 PM
#24
Paisley is a very misunderstood and under apreciated style.

The designs hark directly back to Great Britian's (not England's) Imperial past. Days when Scotsmen and Englishmen together ruled the waves, when the sun never set on the British Empire. Fanciful - yes. But every time you tie a Paisley tie you are dealing with history.
Regards
Chas
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2nd November 09, 12:48 PM
#25
Jock, I agree with you about regimental ties. Though I have several, they do not travel with me to Europe or the UK. However, I wonder about that most fundamental of striped ties, the Guards' red and blue stripe. People who are snooty about their ties point out that ties made in the UK ( hence better) are made with the stripes pointing over the wearer's left shoulder while US made ( hence not really regimental) are usually made with the stripes pointing over the wearer's right shoulder. If an officer in the Guards were to spot an obvious non-Guards member wearing an American-style red and blue tie, would he be bothered?
Interestingly, Ernest Hemingway wrote about people wearing Guards' ties (and not belonging) in the 1930s. He had a character barely avoid a fist fight over it, I believe.
As I admit above, I have ties whose stripes denote assorted UK colleges, clubs and units to which I do not belong. I believe I am separated by hundreds ( if not thousands) of miles from those who do belong and I am certainly not trying to steal their prestige. I would go out of my way to avoid that, but here in North America, there exists little risk that I would be mistaken for an Old Etonian or even the saddest former batsman for the Marylebone Cricket Club. What say you?
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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2nd November 09, 01:05 PM
#26
I prefer mixing textures more than patterns.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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2nd November 09, 01:17 PM
#27
 Originally Posted by MacLowlife
Jock, I agree with you about regimental ties. Though I have several, they do not travel with me to Europe or the UK. However, I wonder about that most fundamental of striped ties, the Guards' red and blue stripe. People who are snooty about their ties point out that ties made in the UK ( hence better) are made with the stripes pointing over the wearer's left shoulder while US made ( hence not really regimental) are usually made with the stripes pointing over the wearer's right shoulder. If an officer in the Guards were to spot an obvious non-Guards member wearing an American-style red and blue tie, would he be bothered?
Interestingly, Ernest Hemingway wrote about people wearing Guards' ties (and not belonging) in the 1930s. He had a character barely avoid a fist fight over it, I believe.
As I admit above, I have ties whose stripes denote assorted UK colleges, clubs and units to which I do not belong. I believe I am separated by hundreds ( if not thousands) of miles from those who do belong and I am certainly not trying to steal their prestige. I would go out of my way to avoid that, but here in North America, there exists little risk that I would be mistaken for an Old Etonian or even the saddest former batsman for the Marylebone Cricket Club. What say you?
Its not the officers that you need worry about, its the WHOLE REGIMENT!Might I suggest that you find a picture of me on this website, you might spot me wearing one of those red and blue striped ties! Yes we do look at ties and there are some ties that look very similar and er well, yes mistakes have been made. Not all British regimental ties slope the same way, there are some noble exceptions like the RAF and the 17th/21st Lancers.
You may find www.SmartTurnout.com interesting.
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2nd November 09, 01:54 PM
#28
 Originally Posted by Chas
Paisley is a very misunderstood and under apreciated style.
The designs hark directly back to Great Britian's (not England's) Imperial past. Days when Scotsmen and Englishmen together ruled the waves, when the sun never set on the British Empire. Fanciful - yes. But every time you tie a Paisley tie you are dealing with history.
Regards
Chas
... paisley still looks entirely too much like paramecia for me...
elim
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2nd November 09, 02:03 PM
#29
 Originally Posted by lethearen
... paisley still looks entirely too much like paramecia for me...
There are those who would say that you have no soul - I could not possibly comment on that.
Regards
Chas
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2nd November 09, 02:25 PM
#30
Thanks, Jock, Maybe the Smart Turnout people could be convinced to do a kilt-length in some of those hose?
I read somewhere that there are more A&SH neckties in Connecticut than in all of the UK. I have to say, my favorite Regimental tie is the Artillery, with its zigzag lines. It is a perfect graphic representation of what the Artillery do.
When I last visited Scotland, my ties had little ducks and pheasants on them. I was prepared to deal with any offended fowl- in fact I borrowed a gun and went looking for them one day.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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