Culloden

[Panache]

Ladies and Gentlemen of XMTS,

This thread of Stratherrick's was taken off the open forum for review because of a member concern.

Having read and discussed this post about one person standing at the site of the battle and describing his feelings, we feel this is in compliance with our forum's rules and it has been returned.

We do ask that our members remember that few groups of people, and fewer nations are spared memories of horrible deeds their forefathers did. Here in the United States of America we need look no further than the history of our own native peoples.

If this thread moves into the subject of modern politics between the Scots and English it will be closed and removed

Sincerely

Jamie and The Forum Moderators

[Woodsheal]

That's a stirring and romantic view, but let's not forget that a majority of Scots opposed the '45 Rising, and that a lot of the redcoats at Culloden were indeed Scots. As well, many of the clans were pro-government, and half (or more) of Prince Charlie's army was comprised of non-tartan-wearing lowlanders.

It was not a Scotland vs. England conflict, but more in the nature of a civil war in many ways.

Also, recent archeological work at the battlefield has revealed that the battle was bigger than has been thought, and that the Jacobites came closer to success on the field than is traditionally portrayed. Their musketry was much heavier than previously thought, for example. It was not a hopeless slaughter, but rather a near-run fight that ended in defeat, but could have gone the other way....

[BEEDEE]

Also, recent archeological work at the battlefield has revealed that the battle was bigger than has been thought, and that the Jacobites came closer to success on the field than is traditionally portrayed. Their musketry was much heavier than previously thought, for example. It was not a hopeless slaughter, but rather a near-run fight that ended in defeat, but could have gone the other way....

That is interesting. Can you point us to a reference to this work?

Brian

[Woodsheal]

Here's one of the articles:
http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/bat...ects/culloden/

And there's a summary of recent conclusions in the Wikipedia entry on the battle (under "Culloden Battlefield Today"):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden

For the U.K. folks, the new evidence was dealt with in an episode of the TV series "Two Men in a Trench" back in '03, I think....