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3rd November 09, 05:18 PM
#1
Doublets
I have my daywear, semi-formal, and black tie jackets covered and I have been thinking of adding a doublet of some sort for white tie wear. I have kind of been leaning towards a Sheriffmuir, but I would like some recommendations from the rabble as to which doublet is most comfortable and just some general input on which you prefer and why.
Thanks for any information you may provide.
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3rd November 09, 06:11 PM
#2
I have only worn a Sherrifmuir and can't compare it to the Montrose
However I can say I really like my Sherrifmuir doublet a lot
It is pretty comfortable, but mainly I like it because it looks like this...
Good enough reason for me!
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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3rd November 09, 06:32 PM
#3
Originally Posted by Panache
I have only worn a Sherrifmuir and can't compare it to the Montrose
However I can say I really like my Sherrifmuir doublet a lot
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
Jamie,
The main reason I started to lean towards the Sheriffmuir was because of your white tie photo in the "1 Kilt 10 Looks" thread. I think it is smashing looking doublet! Not that Glen doesn't look great in his Montrose, he most certainly does, I just really like the look of the Sheriffmuir at this point. Though, I like the Montrose too. I have just heard it is a far more tightly fitting jacket. Out of curiosity, do you have any photos of what the back of the Sheriffmuir looks like?
Keep the info coming please! The advice and photos I have seen here at X Marks have been the best in the world.
Last edited by raibeart_dubh; 3rd November 09 at 06:43 PM.
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3rd November 09, 07:30 PM
#4
While Panache forces himself to turn his back to the camera, I can speak from the personal experience of having worn both Sheriffmuir and Regulation doublets to white tie events. As far as comfort is concerned, it is a coin toss. To me, both are more comfortable than a Montrose or Kenmore doublet (both of which can become insufferably hot during the course of an evening). The Sheriffmuir is (arguably) the more dashing doublet-- just look at Jamie-- so what it comes down to is a matter of personal choice. At the present time I've a Regulation doublet that I wear for either white or black tie. In the planning stage is a new Sheriffmuir in MacMillan Hunting to match my (next) kilt.
Actually, having thought about this for a minute or two, I thought it might be helpful to explain how I choose which jacket to wear to a particular event. If the invitation says "decorations (or medals)" then I always opt for the regulation doublet as it is a bit more formal (as is the occasion). If medals (AKA "gongs") are not worn then I usually wear a black dress Argyll jacket. In the past (and in the not too distant future) the Sheriffmuir was worn to formal Highland balls and white tie soirees in Scotland.
Last edited by MacMillan of Rathdown; 4th November 09 at 05:35 AM.
Reason: added info
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3rd November 09, 07:39 PM
#5
Originally Posted by raibeart_dubh
Out of curiosity, do you have any photos of what the back of the Sheriffmuir looks like?
Here is an early picture of me wearing the doublet with my Galbraith ancient kilt from the back.
An inetresting thing to note is about the Sherrifmuir doublet is that when wearing the jabot and cuffs one's shirt is not visible at all.
I for one find it very amusing to be wearing a Devils Canyon Brewery T-Shirt as part of white tie formal wear!
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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3rd November 09, 08:18 PM
#6
Jabot yes, Sheriffmuit, maybe not
I have two Montrose doublets and can tell you the good ( dashing) and the bad ( generally tailored in a way that is contrary to big stomachs.) I am in the process of having a third one made.
When I was young and foolish ( as opposed to old and foolish) I bought a black piper's jacket with silver trim. I thought it would make a nice formal jacket and it did, if you like wearing a bandsman's jacket to civilian events. But that got me used to wearing a jabot. Actually, I tried wearing the piper's doublet opened two buttons and wearing a bow tie, which ALMOST works, but not really. The jabot is the way to go.
Anyway, having sweated through a ball in that melton cloth piper's jacket, I was much better able to tolerate the still fairly warm wool flannel Montrose I bought next. It is bottle green and always attracts favorable comments. My downfall came when I purchased a (used ) black velvet one. It is a thing of beauty, but the waist of the jacket misses encircling my own waist by about 6 inches. Thus my adventure now in custom tailoring of doublets.
The Folkwear pattern called a Belgian Chef's coat looks to me as if it would make a great Montrose, but I am working from one made by McCall's, I think, that is actually for Civil War Uniform replicas. My seamstress is circling it warily and has yet to actually cut the medium blue velvet I bought on eBay.
Here is my argument AGAINST the Sheriffmuir: The way it is cut does accommodate a bigger tum, but I believe it also accentuates said gut in a way that some of us would rather avoid. The waistcoat may or may not be cooler with an open doublet than a buttoned up doublet alone. I doubt it.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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3rd November 09, 08:57 PM
#7
The real advantage of the Sherrifmuir is that it is pretty forgiving around the middle. You can expand your horizons and still wear it.
But nothing, and I mean nothing, looks better than a Montrose and jabot.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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3rd November 09, 09:05 PM
#8
I just wear my black argyle and Lady Chrystel jabot.
Now mind you, this is the student-budget version. If I could get a more formal outfit, I'd go for the Sherrifmuir. Just look at Panache--full of Panache!
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3rd November 09, 09:38 PM
#9
Sheriffmuir sounds nice. I'm mostly going by the descriptions of the doublets, and how I can match them up to what I have seen long ago, so I don't have the fine details.
I suppose with the Sheriffmuir, the waistcoat can be changed; tartan to dark green or red, for example.
It seems like I recall Phil stating that the Sheriffmuir can also be worn in less formal evening situations.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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4th November 09, 01:18 AM
#10
Jamie, your are splendid !
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