I always order the waistcoat with the Argyll and generally wear the two together, as the look better suits my height, long torso, and gut while hiding my oft used suspenders. I also have to have mine custom made in either long or extra long sizes, becasue of my long torso and gorilla arms. But if you go to my personal page here on xmarks (just click on my name in any post) and go through my albums you should see several pictures of me in Black Barathea, Grey Tweed, and Green Lovat tweed argylls.