WOW! Thanks Jock, love these discussions. It is threads like this that give me pause to read, think and learn. I don't know how many different tartans I will end up wearing, but for me it will be with a family connection for the most part. I have already decided that my first kilt will be one that I wear for only special occasions, being an 8yd handsewn, so now I am looking at another in my family tartan to be worn more often. And thanks to everyelse for making this so interesting.