Needing a sword

[Drac]

Well one of my friends said why buy a sword I will only use probably use once. He said get a Navy sword so that when I make Chief I would have it to use for ceremonies, I will probably have a couple or more before I retire. I checked with a Chief to see if the saber is one of the uniform items that can be worn outside of a uniform and he said yes.

Here is the sword setup -



What do you guys think? To far away from "normal" look?

Thc,
Jim

[Mike M.]

Check the uniform regs. IIRC, Chiefs are authorized dress cutlasses, not the Naval Officer's sword.

[Drac]

Check the uniform regs. IIRC, Chiefs are authorized dress cutlasses, not the Naval Officer's sword.

The latest uniform regs removed all mention of swords for Chiefs in full dress. When I had asked a Chief about it he said the main reason was the cutlass doesn't go through the coat openings on the dress blue jacket. When I asked if they had stop wearing any sword for ceremonies he said that they had moved over to the saber. Doing searches the only thing on the cutlass I can find is that it was declared obsolete in 1949.

He did say the cutlass is still given as a gift just not worn.

If you can find any regs that mention the wear of a cutlass I would appreciate it.

Jim

[davidlpope]

The latest uniform regs removed all mention of swords for Chiefs in full dress. When I had asked a Chief about it he said the main reason was the cutlass doesn't go through the coat openings on the dress blue jacket. When I asked if they had stop wearing any sword for ceremonies he said that they had moved over to the saber. Doing searches the only thing on the cutlass I can find is that it was declared obsolete in 1949.

He did say the cutlass is still given as a gift just not worn.

If you can find any regs that mention the wear of a cutlass I would appreciate it.

Jim

My understanding is that the only Non-Commissioned Officers in the U.S. military who rate swords are Marine NCOs. Perhaps that's changed and I'm just not aware.

Cordially,

David

[Drac]

My understanding is that the only Non-Commissioned Officers in the U.S. military who rate swords are Marine NCOs. Perhaps that's changed and I'm just not aware.

Cordially,

David

The Navy Chiefs occupy a weird place in military structure. They are the last appointed rank left in the military. They don't wear enlisted uniforms, they wear the officer's. When a ceremony requires a sword they use to wear a cutlass -



But as mentioned above the regs have changed.

For what it's worth, this is a U.S. Navy Officer's Sword, not a generic sword for folks in the U.S. Navy.

Cordially,

David

This is what the Chiefs have moved to with the cutlass being removed. As far as I know there are no generic Navy swords since the late 1800's.

Jim

[berserkbishop]

The Navy Chiefs occupy a weird place in military structure. They are the last appointed rank left in the military. They don't wear enlisted uniforms, they wear the officer's. When a ceremony requires a sword they use to wear a cutlass -



But as mentioned above the regs have changed.



This is what the Chiefs have moved to with the cutlass being removed. As far as I know there are no generic Navy swords since the late 1800's.

Jim

I dont recall seeing a chief ever wear an officers sword for any ceremony, but I have seen officers use the officers sword in ceremonies. I think that as enlisted men in the Navy we just have to accept the fact that they dont want us playing with swords!

What is your rate by the way?

MM3 Bishop

[wildrover]

I'm still fixated on the description of the wedding party, and I expect pictures, video, and other stuff.

...My advice is procure a blade capable of skewering an incoming chair, should the need arise!

[Drac]

After about 15 years I made it up to ET1 off the last exam. I've been around though I was a nuc waste MM3 on a AOE than came back to the reserves as an ET3 in a message traffic unit. Moved over to a Beach Master unit and than into an avation unit when I moved. I did a little time in an intel unit though never out with them, just a cross assigned. Now my time is split between Specwar and the Sea Bees.

If I can get a subsurface gig in the next 5 years I think I will have covered all the communities.

Jim

[Standard]

What do you guys think? To far away from "normal" look?
Thc,
Jim

For this event??? Ummm...well.

Seriously though, I think if you are required to be armed then that is a fine looking piece of hardware to hang off your hip.

[davidlpope]

For what it's worth, this is a U.S. Navy Officer's Sword, not a generic sword for folks in the U.S. Navy.

Cordially,

David

Well one of my friends said why buy a sword I will only use probably use once. He said get a Navy sword so that when I make Chief I would have it to use for ceremonies, I will probably have a couple or more before I retire. I checked with a Chief to see if the saber is one of the uniform items that can be worn outside of a uniform and he said yes.

Here is the sword setup -



What do you guys think? To far away from "normal" look?

Thc,
Jim