Royal Visit to the USA

[Jock Scot]

I just deleted my very plain-spoken/written post in favor of restraint, will save my plain-speaking for face-to-face encounters where it might have some impact, and will retire back to the Athletics forum.

As just Alan to Jock....I'd love to get over there and tramp around your land sometime. Perhaps we could put a dent in the trout population. I'd like that a lot, and I promise that when it's dumping down rain And the mud is ankle deep and I'm grubbing around trying to get close to an animal to shoot it........with a camera......... I'll have the common sense to wear modern raingear, and not my finest wool kilt.

Carry on.

I would like that too.

[Paul]

I say steady on there! Some will find comments like that offensive. Me for one!

Jock, you must also accept that some people find such positions of power offensive.

[Paul]

And it is posts like these that are making me contemplate the same thing. Respect is a two-way street. It may not be your thing, but snarky comments are not necessary. If you don't like the thread, don't read it.

T.

Whilst I feel both of the members you quoted showed a great deal of restraint in their comments, I feel their views are important, especially if they are going to dilute them for the purpose of not offending anyone.
If people are jumping in saying "great", these guys should also be able to voice a belief that it isn't that big a deal to them.

[macwilkin]

It's not worth arguing about. I withdraw my comments.

T.

[Alan H]

This is ridiculous.

I have no problem with the Prince attending a Games in the USA. I have no problem with the Royal Family, generally. I'm bluidy glad that I wasn't born "Prince Alan", however! If Prince Edward....or Charles, or Andrew or the Queen or Fergie or whoever, so happened to show up in California, I'd be delighted to meet them, shakes hands politely, buy the gentlemen a beer if the opportunity came up, and have a grand old time.

I'm not familiar with the Awards being discussed, but they sound worthwhile, and anything that gets kids in the out-of-doors, and doing public service rates highly with me!

What prompted my comment has nothing to do with the main point of the thread, and honestly, we all ought to just drop it. I have.

Back to discussing the Princes visit, the color of his sporran, the Balmoral tartan, and the Awards program he is working with....

[Pleater]

Duh - I just realised that the comment earlier in the thread was about the divine right of kings to rule - a concept dispensed with here some considerable time ago, and at some cost too.

Our royalty are for the most part a hard working lot, and they are involved with many organisations which strive to make the world a better place. Sometimes the media put them in danger by trying to make them into celebrities, for instance by revealing where their military duties have taken them and so laying them open to attack whilst praising their bravery in facing the threat they have created by their reports.

With Prince Phillip getting on a bit now it is only sensible for younger family to take on the awarding of the DoE scheme achievements - they are a serious undertaking and require time and dedication, particularly the higher level ones. It is more than likely, however, that Prince Edward is visiting in order to further various British interests and the visit to the games is to raise public awareness of his presence in the country.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[Chas]

Jock, you must also accept that some people find such positions of power offensive.

Paul, I think that if you look very carefully, you will find that the Earl of Wessex has no position of power at all. He does, on the other hand, have a position of privilege, into which he was born. Neither he, nor you, nor I could choose our parents. How can the accident of birth be offensive? It is like blaming a child for having the wrong colour of eyes or skin.

Regards

Chas

[Paul]

Duh - I just realised that the comment earlier in the thread was about the divine right of kings to rule - a concept dispensed with here some considerable time ago, and at some cost too.

Our royalty are for the most part a hard working lot, and they are involved with many organisations which strive to make the world a better place. Sometimes the media put them in danger by trying to make them into celebrities, for instance by revealing where their military duties have taken them and so laying them open to attack whilst praising their bravery in facing the threat they have created by their reports.

With Prince Phillip getting on a bit now it is only sensible for younger family to take on the awarding of the DoE scheme achievements - they are a serious undertaking and require time and dedication, particularly the higher level ones. It is more than likely, however, that Prince Edward is visiting in order to further various British interests and the visit to the games is to raise public awareness of his presence in the country.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

I'll save posting deep into my own views, as they'd form a discussion which I could appreciate would not be very welcome on Xmarks, however, I will say from a non-political perspective that I don't believe someone should be born with such power, status, nor workload. Each bears a tonne of responsibility, and I feel this should be taken by choice; not by inheritance.

[Paul]

Paul, I think that if you look very carefully, you will find that the Earl of Wessex has no position of power at all. He does, on the other hand, have a position of privilege, into which he was born. Neither he, nor you, nor I could choose our parents. How can the accident of birth be offensive? It is like blaming a child for having the wrong colour of eyes or skin.

Regards

Chas

Chas, I realise my comment was a little intentionally vague, but I never meant that at all.
I was directing my argument to the state of privileges and how these can be refused, therefore this is very much different to someone being born with an inherited physical feature.

[ForresterModern]

TROUT? Did I hear someone say something about TROUT?