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View Poll Results: Which tartan shall we submit for consideration as the official New York State tartan?

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  • A

    13 26.53%
  • B

    3 6.12%
  • C

    25 51.02%
  • B with A as a hunting variant

    2 4.08%
  • I think we need to start over

    6 12.24%
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    I definitely agree to the need for support from these organizations to get a tartan adopted by the state. However, opening up the design process to all and sundry will perpetuate said process till doomsday!
    How many people are tartan designers? Damn' few. I still think the best way to proceed is to present a finished design, and then seek backing for it....
    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    I definitely agree to the need for support from these organizations to get a tartan adopted by the state. However, opening up the design process to all and sundry will perpetuate said process till doomsday!
    How many people are tartan designers? Damn' few. I still think the best way to proceed is to present a finished design, and then seek backing for it....
    Spot on, Brian!

    T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    I definitely agree to the need for support from these organizations to get a tartan adopted by the state. However, opening up the design process to all and sundry will perpetuate said process till doomsday!
    How many people are tartan designers? Damn' few. I still think the best way to proceed is to present a finished design, and then seek backing for it....
    Agreed, Brian. Even if we end up deciding we're not thrilled with what we have here and want to start over I would not suggest throwing the design process open and starting some sort of contest. I enjoy designing and Amble is very talented - between the two of us we can handle that part.

    Where we're really going to need a lot involvement is marshaling support from the various Scottish organizations around the state. Everything from the state St Andrews Society to local groups and Highland games organizers. The NYC Tartan Day parade committee might be a good place to get some support also. If anyone should support such an effort they should.

    Regards,

    Brian

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    Since I am not from New York (or ever even been to New York) I won't vote officially, but I did want to say that the "C" tartan is my favorite. I think that tartan would make a fine kilt. Good luck!

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    I must have missed something: did Barbara say that design A would be difficult/impossible to pleat to the sett?

    My answer to that would be that pleating to the sett isn't necessary or even preferable in my opinion. Tartan A could be "pleated to the block", to the open green area, for example.

    Which brings up an interesting issue: in The Art of Kiltmaking "pleating to the block" isn't mentioned. What is mentioned is the "unfortunate lawnchair effect" of having horizonal elements predominate.

    But this sort of pleating is rather common. Some military kilts and many Pipe Band kilts are pleated that way. It's not always a clear-cut thing, because kilts can be pleated to the stripe, but to a stripe which is very weak, so at any distance the kilt appears to be pleated to the block.

    In any case I wouldn't reject a strong tartan design simply because it doesn't lend itself to one specific style of pleating.

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