Silly Title wanted, or not!

[Dr Mac]

Totally agree with Improv1. The poll indicates that a definite majority of the rabble want the titles returned (hopefully of all types). I'm noting that the posts on this issue are mostly Mar/Apr and there are still no titles restored (now in June) for post counts.
Please restore those, too, Steve. They don't separate us, honest. They add incentive, nurture involvement, and contribute zest to the forum!

[Steve Ashton]

In all fairness Dr. Mac,

As neither I nor any of the staff posted this poll, nor set the date for it to end, may we please wait until the poll closes.

[ccga3359]

Totally agree with Improv1. The poll indicates that a definite majority of the rabble want the titles returned (hopefully of all types). I'm noting that the posts on this issue are mostly Mar/Apr and there are still no titles restored (now in June) for post counts.
Please restore those, too, Steve. They don't separate us, honest. They add incentive, nurture involvement, and contribute zest to the forum!

Perhaps I never got my original silly title restored, I still did receive a new one that i'm equally proud of. Titles have been quietly applied. I'm seeing this as case closed, perhaps the poll should too.

[Chas]

I have tried to ignore this. After all it has nothing to do with kilts. Ego, yes. Personal preference, yes. Oneupmanship, yes. But kilts, no. But still it won't die; it keeps coming back. And at the end of this month the debate will rage anew.

Having personal titles is divisive, pure and simple. Those that have and those that have not.

Under the old system, before they disappeared, no new titles had been granted for almost 2 years. What about all those members who joined in the last 2 years? Obviously not worthy enough. No matter how many posts they made; no matter how many photographs they took and posted; no matter how many reports of events they posted; no matter how many kilts, or sporrans, or sgians, or belts they made, or jackets they modified - they are just not worthy enough!

Or could it be that they just weren't friends with the right people. Can anyone name a member, who received a personal title, who at that time wasn't a friend of a Mod? Don't be shy people - name names - if you can. Will it be a long list? - I think not.

What about all the 'little' members, all those without titles; those, who accidentally happen to be the bulk of the membership? Those who get on with life and wear their kilts, often in difficult circumstances. Who relate their stories of triumph and disaster. Who ask advice and get conflicting replies. What about them? Well they get the pleasure of seeing someone else getting a personal title.

Everybody wants to be well liked. Everybody wants to to think that they have the respect of their peers. Everybody wants to think that they are worthy of that respect. That is the clue - EVERYBODY.

We are all members of the same forum - there are no 'super members'. One kilt or one hundred kilts; traditional or contemporary; wearing it for a month or for 40 years - it makes no difference, we are all XMarkers and should be treated the same.

Either there are personal titles for every member or for no members. There is no middle ground.

Regards

Chas

[robthehiker]

I have tried to ignore this. After all it has nothing to do with kilts. Ego, yes. Personal preference, yes. Oneupmanship, yes. But kilts, no. But still it won't die; it keeps coming back. And at the end of this month the debate will rage anew.

Having personal titles is divisive, pure and simple. Those that have and those that have not.

Under the old system, before they disappeared, no new titles had been granted for almost 2 years. What about all those members who joined in the last 2 years? Obviously not worthy enough. No matter how many posts they made; no matter how many photographs they took and posted; no matter how many reports of events they posted; no matter how many kilts, or sporrans, or sgians, or belts they made, or jackets they modified - they are just not worthy enough!

Or could it be that they just weren't friends with the right people. Can anyone name a member, who received a personal title, who at that time wasn't a friend of a Mod? Don't be shy people - name names - if you can. Will it be a long list? - I think not.

What about all the 'little' members, all those without titles; those, who accidentally happen to be the bulk of the membership? Those who get on with life and wear their kilts, often in difficult circumstances. Who relate their stories of triumph and disaster. Who ask advice and get conflicting replies. What about them? Well they get the pleasure of seeing someone else getting a personal title.

Everybody wants to be well liked. Everybody wants to to think that they have the respect of their peers. Everybody wants to think that they are worthy of that respect. That is the clue - EVERYBODY.

We are all members of the same forum - there are no 'super members'. One kilt or one hundred kilts; traditional or contemporary; wearing it for a month or for 40 years - it makes no difference, we are all XMarkers and should be treated the same.

Either there are personal titles for every member or for no members. There is no middle ground.

Regards

Chas

This poll is about titles earned by postcount - kilted warrior, kilted elder, grand defender of the kilt etc., not about the "special" titles given out by the mods.

[Jock Scot]

This poll is about titles earned by postcount - kilted warrior, kilted elder, grand defender of the kilt etc., not about the "special" titles given out by the mods.

Now, I may be quite wrong here, but I thought we were talking about and voting on, primarily re-instating the "special" titles.

[Chas]

This poll is about titles earned by postcount - kilted warrior, kilted elder, grand defender of the kilt etc., not about the "special" titles given out by the mods.

Read post 30 onwards. On balance, I believe that this thread is about the special titles.

Regards

Chas

[Zardoz]

I think a readthough of this thread would show this poll is about the titles earned by postcounts - kilted warrior, kilted elder etc., as well as the "special" titles given out by the mods. While the discussion has wandered, this has been re-affirmed by various posts in the thread, some by the original poster. (post #52)

While I endorse the idea that we are all in this forum together etc. One must realize that in any group there are individuals that for better or worse, stand out for some reason. All the "special" titles we had and have were given out to recognise someone's special skills or contributions, sometimes factual, more often tongue in cheek.

As far as someone being a friend of a Mod; online forums are not real life, but just like real life, they are not an egalitarian anthill either. Like it or not sometimes "who you know" can help things.
I know I'm friends with a couple of the mods from those days, and not just "internet friends", we've broken bread. One might suppose that with some of the stuff I go on about on here, I would have had some kind of wacky title, about flatcaps or sci-fi etc, but I never got one, and untill now never really thought about it. And now that I have, I don't care! I've never had a burning desire to have one.

I don't pretend to know original poster' Morrison's mind, but I think the heart this thread was never really about titles as a display of "egos" or "oneupmanship". I have always seen it as a reaction to some of the forum changes, specifically the abrupt removal of titles, and the element of fun about them that many of us enjoyed.
As Morrison said; "AFTER ALL, it IS about humor. The titles and getting them and all!"

[Zardoz]

Double post deleted

[robthehiker]

Now, I may be quite wrong here, but I thought we were talking about and voting on, primarily re-instating the "special" titles.

Read post 30 onwards. On balance, I believe that this thread is about the special titles.

Regards

Chas

Whoops! My bad. I read the thread a long time ago then refreshed my memory by reading up to post 29 (ish).