Thanks for the welcomes, and thanks for the pointers as well. I have a couple of friends that have Matt's box pleated kilts, and I do like them. It is a plus that the museum is relatively close as well. I have a niece that lives in Knoxville so it will give me an excuse for a trip to visit the museum. Wow! 5 to 6 months is a long lead time though, but they appear to be worth the wait.