Me Hat

[Alan H]

I'll just tell you all that now and again I wear a dark-khakhi-green-gray sort of baseball cap (I have several, all of which advertise various sailing organizations or shops) with my digital camo and predator camo contemporary kilts.

This being the contemporary kilt forum, and all, I thought I'd chime in.

[Spc. Scott]

I have a wool pack hat I like to wear in the winter along with my balmoral. I have a flat cap that I've worn for quite a few years. (more years than I have worn a kilt). I really like to wear them all. In summer I find I wear hats less. I guess I just haven't found one that really like for hot weather wear that suits me.

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I bring this up because I am constantly amazed at the number of men and boys I see who seem to have no idea about hat etiquette whatsoever. They put one on (usually a trucker style hat - and I consider a genuine baseball cap with a team logo, fitted and made of wool with quality construction a different beast altogether, though they are subject to the same disregard for convention in most instances) when they rise in the morning and do not remove it until they go to bed. I do not just see this in the young, though they are the principal offenders. I see men older than my parents wearing hats in restaurants and who have to be reminded to remove them on the few occasions they darken the door of a church.

I try to be charitable to those benighted souls, but it does bother me. Am I turning into an auld crabbit at the tender age of 53?

Regards,

Brian snip

I'm only 31 and it bothers me as well. Between my upbringing and the military I just can't wear a hat indoors.

[Jock Scot]

You might want to re-think that position, AA. We have it on no less an authority than our own dear Jock Scott, who in another thread says it's a fine idea to wear a Panama hat with a kilt in the hot sun. He admits it's not traditional, but he apparently feels that there are times when the traditional must yield to the practical.

Regards,

Brian

Yes I did say that, as I fully believe that the traditional balmoral, glengarry and awful(with the kilt) flat cap does not provide adequate protection from the sort of sun that some of you chaps endure.

You are too kind Brian. Me being an "authority" on anything, is exaggerating just a wee tad.

[Jock Scot]

Oh dear, this is an old(ish) thread that has not died!Oh well, it is a good subject as long as we behave!

[toadinakilt]

Wait, wearing a baseball cap with a kilt is wrong? What's a good old boy like me to do...

[Lallans]

Oh dear, this is an old(ish) thread that has not died!Oh well, it is a good subject as long as we behave!

Finally, after only a year or so I can understand some of the 'flat cap' references bandied back and forth on Xmarks. Someday the dandelion thing will come to light too- perhaps. But I will throw in my own personal associations with flat caps, which are as follows:

flat cap= Andy Capp= cockney thug= London= South of England= not Scottish. QED.

Tractor/baseball caps now, they are a different story, a major badge of egalitarianism in North America and the only practical headgear for men in hot sunny weather. OK, unless a Panama or other type of straw hat can be worn. And referring back to the original thread, I guess PJ doesn't go outside much.

[Jock Scot]

Finally, after only a year or so I can understand some of the 'flat cap' references bandied back and forth on Xmarks. Someday the dandelion thing will come to light too- perhaps. But I will throw in my own personal associations with flat caps, which are as follows:

flat cap= Andy Capp= cockney thug= London= South of England= not Scottish. QED.

Tractor/baseball caps now, they are a different story, a major badge of egalitarianism in North America and the only practical headgear for men in hot sunny weather. OK, unless a Panama or other type of straw hat can be worn. And referring back to the original thread, I guess PJ doesn't go outside much.

Also the flat cap= country set(huntin', shootin',fishin') and to the Scots in particular the flat cap = ENGLISH TOFF country set. therefore no flat cap with the kilt! QED.

Now this is a reverse snobbery type thing by some of the Scots , that does not ever get out of hand in any way and those of you from abroad will not even begin to understand. So please lets not get in to "bashing the English" here.

[xman]

Aren't flat caps from Ireland though?

[Jock Scot]

Aren't flat caps from Ireland though?

I have no idea,could be, we(I am pretty sure) in the UK never even think about it. I certainly don't and I know of no one that does. In truth I would regard a flat tweed cap as being universal that perhaps originated from "somewhere" in the British Isles.

[Lallans]

Also the flat cap= country set(huntin', shootin',fishin') and to the Scots in particular the flat cap = ENGLISH TOFF country set. therefore no flat cap with the kilt! QED.

Now this is a reverse snobbery type thing by some of the Scots , that does not ever get out of hand in any way and those of you from abroad will not even begin to understand. So please lets not get in to "bashing the English" here.

I thought toffs all wore fully brimmed hats, like fedoras and trilbys. And I don't think not wanting to wear something considered English while in Scottish attire can be construed as 'bashing the English.' But actually I have no particularly strong feelings either way. I'm more of a John Deere guy myself and now I know why.

Man, this flat cap thing is fraught with unexpected PERIL! I bow out!