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    Thing is, I always thought the UK WAS meant to be basically analogous to a pair of jeans.

    About the most "dressed up" I've ever pulled with a UK was polish on my boots, and the "good" Ike jacket. Heck, wearing a denim right now w/a BACA t-shirt and a pair of Vibram Fivefingers...

    Then again, I tend to tell people (who try to tell me "how to do it") to fold their opinion in all corners, and stick it in their oubliette...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strings View Post
    Thing is, I always thought the UK WAS meant to be basically analogous to a pair of jeans.

    About the most "dressed up" I've ever pulled with a UK was polish on my boots, and the "good" Ike jacket. Heck, wearing a denim right now w/a BACA t-shirt and a pair of Vibram Fivefingers...
    Thats it, Im the same my UK is the same as my jeans the most ill do with it is a shirt with my boots.

    Jordan
    The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
    He kens na where the wind comes frae,
    But he kens fine where its goin'.

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    Owning several different styles of kilts, I understand wearing them in different circumstances.

    Around here one can see a fair number of kilts at functions, but 'Irish' functions and 'Scottish' functions tend to be very different in how kilts are worn.

    At Irish Functions
    • Utilikilts are sold
    • Off the rack casual kilts are sold
    • Many pipers wear the UK on stage. Not pipe bands, but pipers with a band.
    • Low socks and boots are the normal footwear.


    At Scottish functions
    • The UK is rare
    • Never seen a piper in a UK
    • Except at the Highland Games, kilts are not sold
    • Hose, shoes, flashers as footwear.


    Kilt tradition has changed. And it is changing again and will change in the future. We can't hold it back, but we can hold a reserve of what it was.[1]

    Just like jeans went from being 'clothing that poor people wore' to being expensive, high-end merchandise.

    [1]Though if you ask me, a properly worn great-kilt just looks NICE.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy j starche View Post
    Kilt tradition has changed. And it is changing again and will change in the future. We can't hold it back, but we can hold a reserve of what it was.[1]

    Just like jeans went from being 'clothing that poor people wore' to being expensive, high-end merchandise.

    [1]Though if you ask me, a properly worn great-kilt just looks NICE.....
    That is the truth man.

    My personal opinion is that it can only change so much before it just won’t work an example black tie with a UK or a kilt like it, as far as I can see it just will not work (prove me wrong!) so for anyone who needs to dress up their kilt past smartish day wear (im not using the "proper" day/evening wear guides here just my interpretation) modern kilts like UK's and union kilts and amerikilts etc just won’t cut it.

    Back on topic now sorry for the derailment.

    Jordan
    The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
    He kens na where the wind comes frae,
    But he kens fine where its goin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    That is the truth man.

    My personal opinion is that it can only change so much before it just won’t work an example black tie with a UK or a kilt like it, as far as I can see it just will not work (prove me wrong!) so for anyone who needs to dress up their kilt past smartish day wear (im not using the "proper" day/evening wear guides here just my interpretation) modern kilts like UK's and union kilts and amerikilts etc just won’t cut it.

    Back on topic now sorry for the derailment.

    Jordan
    Oh... no doubt a UK or any other affordable kilt won't work for black tie events.

    If I may: As a hill billy stuck living in the city I have made the following observation about 'black tie' dress. Black tie dress means that you are dressed in clothing so expensive than only other people as rich as you [or richer] can afford to wear them. Therefore, as soon as black tie becomes affordable to the masses, the bar goes up.

    Kilts began their life as an affordable, utilitarian piece of clothing worn by the Highlanders of Scotland. Not fancy clothes. Somewhere in history, most likely when the kilt when to the kings court, there was a change and suddenly kilts and the whole kit became an expensive outfit.

    I do not see modern 'casual' kilts as undermining the 'majestic history' of the kilt ... I see casual kilts as reclaiming the spirit of a kilt. Affordable and practical.

    I wear my tank and my 'nice outfit' for nice events and I wear my Utilikilt for tearing apart bikes and dealing with leaking oil and whatever. I wear my acrylic kilts for bumming around in.

    I'm in the process of ordering a PV kilt to fill the big gap in the middle.

    To get back the topic of the OP: "Fashion Designers" do not take into consideration people wearing their creations to do any real work in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy j starche View Post
    I do not see modern 'casual' kilts as undermining the 'majestic history' of the kilt ... I see casual kilts as reclaiming the spirit of a kilt. Affordable and practical.
    I agree. Every time I pass the UK tent, I'm tempted...it'd be great to have one for the garage, except leather would be a better choice for what I do (almost exclusively involves metal).

    I wear my tank and my 'nice outfit' for nice events and I wear my Utilikilt for tearing apart bikes and dealing with leaking oil and whatever. I wear my acrylic kilts for bumming around in.

    I'm in the process of ordering a PV kilt to fill the big gap in the middle.
    You'd be amazed at the durability of your 16x8 . The only place I don't wear mine is the garage...IMHO that's a place exclusively for Carharrts...but then my garage is a place of molten metal and axle grease.
    To get back the topic of the OP: "Fashion Designers" do not take into consideration people wearing their creations to do any real work in.
    I find it particularly ironic that many of those pairs of fashion jeans look as though they've been worked in .

    All I can say is Carharrts. Like my 16x8, you'll have to pry them out of my cold, dead hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy j starche View Post
    Kilts began their life as an affordable, utilitarian piece of clothing worn by the Highlanders of Scotland. Not fancy clothes. Somewhere in history, most likely when the kilt when to the kings court, there was a change and suddenly kilts and the whole kit became an expensive outfit.

    I do not see modern 'casual' kilts as undermining the 'majestic history' of the kilt ... I see casual kilts as reclaiming the spirit of a kilt. Affordable and practical.
    I second this perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy j starche View Post
    At Scottish functions...
    • Hose, shoes, flashers...
    Hey man- this is supposed to be a family friendly forum!




    ...sorry. Couldn't resist. Please carry on.

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    Reference: Flashers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Ross View Post
    Hey man- this is supposed to be a family friendly forum!
    Then we won't talk about the time I was trying to tell a friend of mine about various kilt accessories. She started wearing the UK, but I wanted to know some of the traditional stuff as well.

    Long story short ... I went to Google Images and typed in 'kilt flashers.' Some things I will never be able to unsee........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy j starche View Post
    Reference: Flashers



    Then we won't talk about the time I was trying to tell a friend of mine about various kilt accessories. She started wearing the UK, but I wanted to know some of the traditional stuff as well.

    Long story short ... I went to Google Images and typed in 'kilt flashers.' Some things I will never be able to unsee........
    Expose yourself to art!

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