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    Nobody is perfect...

    Charles Thompson points out that different companies use the same names for different jackets. Unfortunately, the Black Tie Guide site has a couple of pictures that are not consistent with my understanding. The Regulation Doublet, for instance, is not just a PC with epaulets- it has Inverness Flaps (tashes) that seem to be missing from their illustration. There has been discussion elsewhere about single and double breasted Regulation Doublets and PCs, as well.

    For some reason, Highland Clans does not show the double breasted Montrose doublet which is popular with many X Markers.

    To avoid confusion, I have proposed a sort of menu of elements:

    You can have your doublet to button or to be open.

    You may have it with or without flaps/skirts/tashes.

    You can have it single or double breasted.

    You can have it with lapels or a military collar.

    You can have it with any one of three styles of cuffs.

    If you like, you can further specify the fabric and the direction in which the fabric is cut.

    There are names for most of these variations, many of which are pretty well standardized among X Markers, but now and then something new comes along, or at least something named differently.

    Double Breasted, no flaps, military collar: Montrose
    Single breasted, flaps, military collar: Kenmore ( this is also a good approximation of a piper's tunic)
    Open, DB, lapels, flaps in the back ( PC)
    Open, Lapels, flaps all round Regulation (some would say this ought to specify double or single breasted, but I think they come both ways)
    Closed, Single Breasted, lapels, flaps : Balmoral
    Open/closed single breasted, lapels, no flaps Argyle/Crail

    I am intentionally leaving at least one error in this list. I look to my superiors to locate it and point out my mistakes.
    Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife

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    PS, Teeming with a lot of news

    There are numerous excellent discussions and expositions here on X Marks, regarding both nomenclature and escalating degrees of formality. I would urge anyone who hasn't done so to consult McMurdo and Panache's excellent thread One Kilt Ten Looks. A quick search on the Traditional Highland Dress forum reveals several informative and useful threads on various jackets. And, of course, many of us are just waiting to answer your questions. Some of us may even get the answer right.
    Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife

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    with many cheerful facts...

    PS, Teeming with a lot of news??
    Quote Originally Posted by MacLowlife View Post
    There are numerous excellent discussions and expositions here on X Marks, regarding both nomenclature and escalating degrees of formality. I would urge anyone who hasn't done so to consult McMurdo and Panache's excellent thread One Kilt Ten Looks...
    Sorry for the total hi-jack, but in my book, no G & S reference should ever go un-applauded...

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    don't mind me, I just clean the windows

    And I sweep the floor...
    Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLowlife View Post
    And I sweep the floor...


    I'm not as classy as MacLowlife.
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    Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…

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