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    I have an offer for the caddiemaster. A cranialanalectomy.

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    "Dress Code

    Headwear is not permitted in the Clubhouse.
    Gentlemen are required to wear jacket and tie in the Smoke Room and the Dining Room although casual golf wear is acceptable in the Club Bar and for lunch in the Ailsa Room.
    Denim jeans, shorts, tee shirts and training/sports shoes are not permitted in the Clubhouse or on the Courses.
    Ladies are permitted to wear tailored shorts."

    In the Uk it is a crime to descriminate or to treat less favourably on the basis of gender,
    Goods or services that are available to the public must be provided in a way that does not discriminate unfairly on the grounds of gender.

    There are three ways that a service provider might discriminate on the grounds of gender:

    * refusing to provide you with a service
    * providing you with a lower standard of service
    * providing you with a service on worse terms

    If Jeffs kilt was being classed as shorts then by allowing ladies to wear shorts and not men the club is falling foul of the law

    http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/y...as-a-consumer/

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    The national dress is banned by a officious official at a golf course? You must have found yourself faced with a 'Caddymaster*' who, in his own mind, lives in 'North Britain' and not in Scotland- I'd hoped they all died out in the last century. Perhaps a heritage foundation should be started up to fight these kilt-hating 'North British' folks, the ilk of whom, frankly, I have encountered socially while not kilted. Sean Connery could approached about becoming the chairman of the foundation.

    * I have manfully resisted making jokes around the 'cad' portion of that job title. Well, until now.

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    Hey Jeff.

    Although I am not usually given over to conspiracy theories I have to ask, is it remotely possible that your wife bribed the caddiemaster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander_Daz View Post
    In the Uk it is a crime to descriminate or to treat less favourably on the basis of gender,
    Goods or services that are available to the public must be provided in a way that does not discriminate unfairly on the grounds of gender.

    Is this the case with non-publicly funded clubs as well? In the US you can form a privately held club that allows only men, only women or only people of a particular lineage, though you may be subject to public criticism and protest.

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    What a shame! I just sent my message away to them. I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip!

    Mark - Ohio
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    I'm sorry to say Jeff that you have come across a bit of a jobs worth, It's much easier to say NO than come out and make an informed decision, Which if the powers that be above him did not like may cause him trouble. So they fob you off. Such a shame i really do hope the rest of your time in the land of the Scots is far more pleasurable

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    Club rules are for the benefit of club members, not overseas visitors. The Caddie Master chose to strictly interpret the Club Rules regarding dress in the same way he would strictly interpret the rules of the game of Golf. Frankly, he did the right thing. If the gentleman members are expected to play in trousers, so are guests. As much as we might like to see it differently, from his perspective you can't have one set of rules for the members and another set of rules for someone who has just dropped in for the day.

    What I find faintly bemusing is the thought of contemplating what word will go through the mind of the Club Secretary when he starts reading letters and emails from people -- not members of the club -- complaining about something that happened to someone else (whom they have probably never actually met) when they themselves were not even present when "the outrage" occurred...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Club rules are for the benefit of club members, not overseas visitors. The Caddie Master chose to strictly interpret the Club Rules regarding dress in the same way he would strictly interpret the rules of the game of Golf. Frankly, he did the right thing. If the gentleman members are expected to play in trousers, so are guests. As much as we might like to see it differently, from his perspective you can't have one set of rules for the members and another set of rules for someone who has just dropped in for the day.

    What I find faintly bemusing is the thought of contemplating what word will go through the mind of the Club Secretary when he starts reading letters and emails from people -- not members of the club -- complaining about something that happened to someone else (whom they have probably never actually met) when they themselves were not even present when "the outrage" occurred...
    Prepare yourself for a shock MOR, we are in full agreement!

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    Jeff,

    MOR might have a point, but I just sent my two cents worth anyway, in spite of MOR's comments.

    Phew, glad I'm not in the UK...too stuffy for me.

    Come to Arnie's course in Latrobe someday. I'll be your host...no need to worry about the kilt issue!

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