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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Ken, off topic I know but if your bonnet will not shrink any more and there does come a time when they don't, then plan "C" comes into play IF------

    Has you bonnet got an inverted "V" where the bow is? It should have------ if not, get your local seamstress to make one(by the bow knot) so the widest part is about an inch an a half wide, sew along the cuts to keep it all tidy and then......Sew some elastic across the gap so that it actually closes it shut, but will open under tension . That should solve the problem for you.
    Excellent idea and I have just the person for the job. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Ken, off topic I know but if your bonnet will not shrink any more and there does come a time when they don't, then plan "C" comes into play IF------

    Has you bonnet got an inverted "V" where the bow is? It should have------ if not, get your local seamstress to make one(by the bow knot) so the widest part is about an inch an a half wide, sew along the cuts to keep it all tidy and then......Sew some elastic across the gap so that it actually closes it shut, but will open under tension . That should solve the problem for you.
    The elastic is a good idea, Jock. I should point out that Mackie bonnets generally only have an inverted V if the 'tied bow' option is chosen when ordering. The headband is sewn closed (without the little ribbon edging on the "V") if the 'flat bow' or 'loose ribbons' options are chosen.
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    Your outfit looks very good, Ken!

    For the record I don't think the other looked that bad either. (Okay, maybe a bit too matching...) Viewing at the pictures together, they could represent 'Urban' vs. 'Country' style, if you know what I mean. The first looks like a Highland version of a modern 'dark business suit' while the latter looks like a country gentleman out for a stroll. Very nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    Your outfit looks very good, Ken!

    For the record I don't think the other looked that bad either. (Okay, maybe a bit too matching...) Viewing at the pictures together, they could represent 'Urban' vs. 'Country' style, if you know what I mean. The first looks like a Highland version of a modern 'dark business suit' while the latter looks like a country gentleman out for a stroll. Very nice!
    What an interesting observation and no doubt very valid when viewed through American eyes. To your eyes, you see country.

    To my Scots eyes I see weddings, funerals, lunches, meetings, informal suppers, meet the Queen on any non formal occasion, drinks parties, BBQ's, regimental parades(as a spectator), a stroll around town AND country! The list is endless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    What an interesting observation and no doubt very valid when viewed through American eyes. To your eyes, you see country.

    To my Scots eyes I see weddings, funerals, lunches, meetings, informal suppers, meet the Queen on any non formal occasion, drinks parties, BBQ's, regimental parades(as a spectator), a stroll around town AND country! The list is endless.
    Jock, I'm sure you meant to write Canadian eyes...

    The style of dress also reminds me of how many of my older relatives in Co. Donegal dressed. Minus the kilt, of course! (And the bonnet would be replaced with a good Irish flat cap!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    Jock, I'm sure you meant to write Canadian eyes...

    The style of dress also reminds me of how many of my older relatives in Co. Donegal dressed. Minus the kilt, of course! (And the bonnet would be replaced with a good Irish flat cap!)
    Sorry about that, I should have said North American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    The elastic is a good idea, Jock. I should point out that Mackie bonnets generally only have an inverted V if the 'tied bow' option is chosen when ordering. The headband is sewn closed (without the little ribbon edging on the "V") if the 'flat bow' or 'loose ribbons' options are chosen.
    Thank you for that, I learn something new every day. Still it is nothing that a pair of scissors could not sort out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slohairt View Post
    Your outfit looks very good, Ken!

    For the record I don't think the other looked that bad either. (Okay, maybe a bit too matching...) Viewing at the pictures together, they could represent 'Urban' vs. 'Country' style, if you know what I mean. The first looks like a Highland version of a modern 'dark business suit' while the latter looks like a country gentleman out for a stroll. Very nice!
    That's an interesting way of looking at it. I think it could apply in some business circles where the more "organic" approach might seem a bit too relaxed to some. But I also think there may be a regional factor at work, at least in the States. My mother's family hailed from the Midwest, a lot of my sartorial training came from that direction and I think your statement would really apply in that world. I pretty sure that branch of the family is the source of my "matchy" genes. But I it may be a bit different down South, where I've lived most of my life. See below....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    What an interesting observation and no doubt very valid when viewed through American eyes. To your eyes, you see country.

    To my Scots eyes I see weddings, funerals, lunches, meetings, informal suppers, meet the Queen on any non formal occasion, drinks parties, BBQ's, regimental parades(as a spectator), a stroll around town AND country! The list is endless.
    Taking kilts out of the equation for the moment, I think that Jock would find some familiarity in the patterns of dress in Savannah and environs. I think one sees quite a lot of "unmatched" style, even in business settings and also in non formal social gatherings. This may be true across the river in the Low Country of South Cackalacky, too... what say ye, Charleston folks?

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    In the time when I wore dark grey suits rather more regularly, I liked white shirts and usually a regimental style tie, although I was partial to very dark blue(almost black) ties with small spots. I cannot recall ever wearing a patterned shirt with a dark grey suit.

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    Great thread. I'm glad you kicked this off Jock. The ABF is a truely worthy cause.

    And they support all this too...

    "For 65 years the Army Benevolent Fund (ABF) has worked tirelessly to provide support to serving soldiers, former soldiers and their families in times of need. The people we support include those with disabilities or mental illness, people experiencing homelessness or unemployment, and older people.

    Welfare
    The Army Benevolent Fund (ABF) is the Soldiers' Charity. We provide support to soldiers, former soldiers and their families in times of need. We work in partnership with Regimental and Corps Benevolent Funds and in co-operation with other Service charities. We identify and investigate eligible cases in "real need", and provide them with financial support.

    Fundraising
    We are dependent on voluntary donations, the ABF must currently raise around £5.5 million each year to continue its vital work with members of the Army Family. The ABF has a network of regional fundraisers across the UK and in other countries such as Cyprus and
    Germany. Individual need can range from an electric wheelchair or a stair lift for an injured former soldier to care home fees for a Second World War veteran or a much needed holiday for a war widow and her young children.


    Charities we support
    Around half of the money is divided between around 80 smaller charities that look after the special needs of the Army Community.

    In 2007 we supported the following charities:
    Families
    Army Families Federation
    Army Widows Association
    Army Welfare Service (minibuses)
    Church Housing Trust (Mike Jackson House)
    Community Housing & Therapy
    CRUSE
    Falklands Pilgrimage 2
    Family Welfare Association
    Forces Families in Need (Emergency) Trust FFINE
    Officers’ Association
    One Parent Families
    RELATE
    Royal Commonwealth Ex Services League
    SAMA 82
    SSAFA Forces Help
    Tourism for All (formerly Holiday Care)
    Veterans Aid (formerly Ex-Services Fellowship Centre)

    Employment
    Regular Forces Employment Association
    Scottish Society for Employment of Ex-Regular Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen

    Disabled people
    British Ex-Services Wheelchair Sports Association (BEWSA)
    British Limbless Ex-Service Men’s Association (BLESMA)
    Broughton House Home for Disabled Ex-Servicemen
    Cassette Library of Recorded Books (CALIBRE)
    Chaseley Trust
    Deafblind
    Emmaus UK
    Ex-Services Mental Welfare Society - Combat Stress
    Gwennili Trust
    Haig Homes
    Help the Hospices
    Home Farm Trust
    Listening Books
    Mutual Support
    National Gulf Veterans & Families Association
    Northern Ireland Memorial Relief of Dependants Fund
    "Not Forgotten" Association
    Phyllis Tuckwell Memorial Hospice
    Portland Training College
    Erskine Hospital
    Queen Alexandra Hospital Home (Gifford House)
    Queen Elizabeth’s Foundation
    RADAR
    Royal British Legion Industries (VAC)
    Royal Star and Garter Home
    Scottish Veterans Garden City Association
    St David’s Home, Ealing
    St Dunstan’s
    St Loye’s Training College
    Soundaround
    Spinal Injuries Association
    Thames Valley Hospice (Pine Lodge)
    Thistle Foundation
    Vitalise (formerly Winged Fellowship Trust)
    William Simpson’s Home

    Children
    Alexandra House
    Queen Victoria School, Dunblane

    Older people
    Age Concern Espana
    Bournemouth War Memorial Homes
    Brendon Care (formally Club Hampshire)
    Chindits
    COBSEO
    Counsel & Care for the Elderly
    League of Remembrance
    Lord Kitchener Memorial Holiday Centre
    Royal Alfred Seafarers’ Society
    Royal Cambridge Home for Soldiers’ Widows
    Royal Hospital, Chelsea
    Scottish Veterans’ Residences
    Veterans Scotland
    War Pensioners Committees
    West Indian Ex-Servicemen’s Association"
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