To Black Watch or not to Black Watch?

[Zardoz]

questions on the Black Watch tartan:

Can I get away with wearing a kilt and not a great kilt for this costuming?

Get away with it? Sure, lots of people do! we had a ren-faire kit discussion here;

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...nsensus-61540/

As long as you don't mistake the "renaissance faire" for a "period correct renaissance era re-enactment" you may 'get away' with a tailored kilt and lots of other 'anachronistic' things as part of your costume.
Same applies to the Black Watch/Campbell/Grant Hunting/gov't sett tartan, it may not have been around in that time period, but you certainly see it often enough at faires. Have fun!

[macwilkin]

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[Dale Seago]

Get away with it? Sure, lots of people do! we had a ren-faire kit discussion here;

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...nsensus-61540/

As long as you don't mistake the "renaissance faire" for a "period correct renaissance era re-enactment" you may 'get away' with a tailored kilt and lots of other 'anachronistic' things as part of your costume.
Same applies to the Black Watch/Campbell/Grant Hunting/gov't sett tartan, it may not have been around in that time period, but you certainly see it often enough at faires. Have fun!

That's the bottom line for Faires, which don't really pay a lot of attention to being PC (Period Correct). Heck, if you wanted I'm sure you'd be welcome as a Renaissance (terrestrial) era pre-Contact Klingon.

Seriously. You could be doing some kinda timetravelweirdwarpthing checking out pre-Federation Contact human culture. It'd be grreat, laddie, and the lassies would all want tae ken aboot any differences in yer. . .parts. . .

What does a Klingon wear under his kilt when he's dressing as a Terran Scot?

[macwilkin]

That's the bottom line for Faires, which don't really pay a lot of attention to being PC (Period Correct). Heck, if you wanted I'm sure you'd be welcome as a Renaissance (terrestrial) era pre-Contact Klingon.

Seriously. You could be doing some kinda timetravelweirdwarpthing checking out pre-Federation Contact human culture. It'd be grreat, laddie, and the lassies would all want tae ken aboot any differences in yer. . .parts. . .

What does a Klingon wear under his kilt when he's dressing as a Terran Scot?

Unfortunately, I bit a "fare" number (pun intended) of fare-goers/general public think everything they see is 100% accurate --- yet another mess for history teachers to clean up!

T.

[Zardoz]

Unfortunately, I bit a "fare" number (pun intended) of fare-goers/general public think everything they see is 100% accurate --- yet another mess for history teachers to clean up!

T.

I certainly hear what you are saying here Todd, but I'd hope that the average faire attendee would have already been prepared by their history teachers, or heavens forbid, their parents, to have the common sense to be able to tell fantasy from historical reality. I go to ren-faire to dress up and play, I can't be responsible if somebody goes to the Texas Ren-fest and looks at Cassidy and I here;

and comes away thinking "Oh that must be how folks dressed for Christmas in Tudor England" I would hope that maybe faires would stimulate some interest in history, but it's likely too late for some of them!

[macwilkin]

I certainly hear what you are saying here Todd, but I'd hope that the average faire attendee would have already been prepared by their history teachers, or heavens forbid, their parents, to have the common sense to be able to tell fantasy from historical reality. I go to ren-faire to dress up and play, I can't be reponsible if somebody goes to the Texas Ren-fest and looks at Cassidy and I here;

and comes away thinking "Oh that must be how folks dressed for Christmas in Tudor England" I would hope that maybe faires would stimulate some interest in history, but it's likely too late for some of them!

Mark,

I agree, and yet I don't, due to the reality of American education -- the fact is that history has longed been the "red-headed stepchild" in elementary & secondary education, and couple that with some pi**-poor teachers who are placed in history classes to give them something to teach (their primary focus is elsewhere), the fact remains that many people are not able to distinguish fact from fantasy. Hollywood has only made the situation worse.

T.

[Detroitpete]

I certainly hear what you are saying here Todd, but I'd hope that the average faire attendee would have already been prepared by their history teachers, or heavens forbid, their parents, to have the common sense to be able to tell fantasy from historical reality. I go to ren-faire to dress up and play, I can't be responsible if somebody goes to the Texas Ren-fest and looks at Cassidy and I here;

and comes away thinking "Oh that must be how folks dressed for Christmas in Tudor England" I would hope that maybe faires would stimulate some interest in history, but it's likely too late for some of them!

Darn you Zardoz! I was reading along just fine when all of a sudden THIS pops up on the next post--Now I've forgotten WHAT I was thinking, what I was going to say, what day it is and why am I now focused on the fashion possiblilities of chain maile? I think you may have provided a picture of yourself here somewhere--but sorry lad--I can't seem to find it ;)

Be careful old man--I'm YOUR age Hmmm... Texas ren faire....wonder if they have highland games there--possible reason to check things out?

Ok--back from the hijack--Nope--BW not correct period--but heck, look at what people where at such events. Besides, I'm one of those guys who would never wear the BW in any case--for any reason.

[Bob C]

I certainly hear what you are saying here Todd, but I'd hope that the average faire attendee would have already been prepared by their history teachers, or heavens forbid, their parents, to have the common sense to be able to tell fantasy from historical reality. I go to ren-faire to dress up and play, I can't be responsible if somebody goes to the Texas Ren-fest and looks at Cassidy and I here;

and comes away thinking "Oh that must be how folks dressed for Christmas in Tudor England" I would hope that maybe faires would stimulate some interest in history, but it's likely too late for some of them!

That's the bottom line, right there. Ren Faires are costume parties, not history classes. As a side note, oh my, that girl is beautiful!

[Geoff Withnell]

Get away with it? Sure, lots of people do! we had a ren-faire kit discussion here;

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...nsensus-61540/

As long as you don't mistake the "renaissance faire" for a "period correct renaissance era re-enactment" you may 'get away' with a tailored kilt and lots of other 'anachronistic' things as part of your costume.
Same applies to the Black Watch/Campbell/Grant Hunting/gov't sett tartan, it may not have been around in that time period, but you certainly see it often enough at faires. Have fun!

Black Watch at a Ren Fair? Heck, I've seen Isle of Skye, Albbanach, Leatherneck and a slew of other late 20th/early21st century tartans at Ren Fairs. What with fairies, harem girls and what not, an out of period tartan is unlikely to be noticed.

Hmmmm, to jump off topic here, if a group of crows is a murder, and group of sheep is a flock, what is a group of tartans?

Geoff Withnell

[budd4766]

Hmmmm, to jump off topic here, if a group of crows is a murder, and group of sheep is a flock, what is a group of tartans?

Geoff Withnell

Uhh...a "tattle" of tartans? Just took a stab at it, but might be fun to come up with something there...